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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1980 on: February 23, 2023, 12:33:28 PM »
Why did the author of this piece view killer Luke Mitchell to be ‘psychotic’ ?

Female fans have been bombarding him in his youth jail with sexually explicit letters. On the steps of the High Court, four giggling girls held up a home-made banner with his photograph and the message: "This boy here is a sexy boy!"

How can we have descended to the horrifying state of affairs where a clearly psychotic killer, who sadistically butchered a teenage girl, has become an icon for young women who display the most callous indifference to the slaughter of one of their own - and are even turned on by her murderer?

Much of Mitchell's fan mail comes from admirers of his hero Marilyn Manson, the self-proclaimed 'anti-Christ superstar' who topped the charts on a platform of sex, drugs and satanism.

Manson, who has acknowledged heavy drug use, depression and self-mutilation, rubs broken glass on to his chest during concerts, spits on the audience and simulates sex acts.

In their letters to Mitchell, some of the schoolgirls refer to the violent lyrics in Manson's work, including his obsession with the slaughter in 1947 of the Hollywood actress Elizabeth Short, known as the 'Black Dahlia' murder.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-337749/Cannabis-caused-14-year-old-kill.html

Passing a life sentence in a silent courtroom, the judge, Lord Nimmo Smith, said Mitchell had shown not a f licker of emotion throughout his nine-week trial and suggested he had been motivated by the "perverted glamour in doing something wicked".

He said Mitchell's upbringing, his obsession with satanism and habitual smoking of cannabis may also have played a part in Jodi's murder.

The premeditated crime, he added, was one of the worst ever to come before the High Court in Edinburgh.

However, this did not prevent three adolescent girls standing outside the court with a homemade banner referring to the killer as a "sexy" boy and urging others to "smoke weed and fly".

Mitchell, 16, remained impassive throughout the halfhour hearing. He appeared thinner, with greasy hair hanging around his shoulders instead of his trademark ponytail, since he was convicted three weeks ago.

Lord Nimmo Smith told the teenager, who was 14 when he killed the schoolgirl, that it was only his young age which prevented him imposing the longest possible custodial sentence. He said: "Looking back on the evidence, I still cannot fathom what led you to do as you did. Perhaps you do not even know yourself."

Despite Mitchell having appeared before him more than 50 times, the judge said:

"On none of these did I recall having detected any sign of emotion in you. While this may not mean much in itself, it fits with evidence from other sources of a striking lack of emotion on your part.

Lord Nimmo Smith suggested it was this coldness, and the possibility cannabis blurred his moral boundaries, that prompted him to inf lict such harm. "I do not subscribe to the notion that cannabis is a harmless, recreational drug. In your case, I think it may well have contributed to your being unable to make the distinction between fantasy and reality which is essential for normal moral judgments." He said this and other factors may have meant he did not know what "a truly wicked deed this was."

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12401946.20-years-for-the-boy-killer-seduced-by-evil/

Sadistic psychopath Luke Mitchell should never be released from prison
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1981 on: February 23, 2023, 12:54:28 PM »
Donna Marie Boyce
So I've finished both books, listened to all the podcasts and watched the c5 documentary still I have questions that I feel should have been answered at the time since theyll never be answered now. Why did sk ask the police if they went to his first. Why did jaj ask if [Name removed] was naked. why was the original crime scene never looked for. I'm not a police officer, not got any legal training or experience, im merely a civilian and those are some of the burning questions that I feel should have been answered as there's no logical explanations for them not to have been investigated. There's so much more that has gone unanswered but those stick out to me. Also the fact that [Name removed] was announced missing 2 hours earlier than she usually stoated home, that's very strange

Sharon Indy Sunshine
Hi Donna, thank you for your post, we are all in the same boat with those questions, it's a rabbit hole you could find anomalies every day for a year and still have more questions. Hopefully, you find good resources here in the group..


And this is exactly what the sadistic, psychopathic killer Luke Mitchell and his toxic enablers want you to do - keep going round and round and round and keep you focused on irrelevant details about anyone but the actual killer = Luke Mitchell
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1982 on: February 23, 2023, 12:56:44 PM »
Julie Kornhammer
Patrick Gillan I know we can't name names and I have followed this case for years, i believe luke is innocent but every now and again I wonder if he is innocent, why is he still behind bars , I don't understand the legal system by any means, I find it all so confusing but I just can't get my head round why he's still in jail and why the police and justice system are allowing this. Are there things they have which make them believe he is guilty? If there's no dna evidence etc why is he still locked up. I've read Dr Sandra Leans book which was so informative and I read this group's comments regularly but why do I feel so confused and have that little niggle from time to time. Like I say i do believe he's innocent I just don't understand why he's still locked away. I think everyone is doing an amazing job,  it's mind blowing,  so I would be grateful for any information to help me with my confusion . Dr Lean and Scott Forbes and everyone else involved are doing such an amazing job, I have such admiration for them.
 I just feel there are so many unanswered things involved with this case and I'm sure I'm not the only one x

Barbara Bacon
Julie Kornhammer this is a hard case to get your head around for years I just assumed Luke was guilty I believed all the things I seen on TV in papers not that I paid attention I was busy but I remember it being all over the TV and papers it was not until I started looking in to it myself and doing my own research that I started to see things differently there is still so ment unanswered questions all 2 can do is keep pushing for an independent review and get all the information out on the table but you can ask questions if we new the answer we will tell you.


There will be no ‘independent review’ (whatever that is) and the petition could have 10 million signatures - it will make no difference

Psychopathic killer Luke Mitchell and his toxic enablers Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes don’t want ‘all the information out on the table” and have spent almost 20 years keeping it hidden
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1983 on: February 23, 2023, 01:23:25 PM »
”Mrs Mitchell told the court she returned home about 5.15pm on the day of the murder to find Luke in the kitchen making tea, while Shane was upstairs.

As they ate, Luke told her Jodi had sent him a text message suggesting they meet that night



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Was liar Corinne Mitchell shouting from her back garden (while eating her prawns) while her killer son Luke was in the living room - the same living room she told James English if you sat in you couldn’t hear anyone at the back door

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1984 on: February 23, 2023, 01:55:06 PM »
”Mrs Mitchell told the court she returned home about 5.15pm on the day of the murder to find Luke in the kitchen making tea, while Shane was upstairs.

As they ate, Luke told her Jodi had sent him a text message suggesting they meet that night



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Did the sadistic, teenage psychopathic killer also tell his mother Corinne Mitchell about his 3 and a half hour phonecall with Kimberly Thompson on the Saturday night after Jodi Jones left

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1985 on: February 23, 2023, 02:02:59 PM »
Ronnie Mothersole
I still find it very strange That all of  Jodi's clothing where gathered up without them being bagged individually and tagged
 Then Jodi's body was moved
Before the forensics arrived
In my opinion this is police corruption

Ronnie Mothersole
Justice Seeker surely when it comes to a murder scene Every police officer knows procedure
So one must ask who gave the instruction to gather the items and move the body
It is very easy to prove that it was not negligence



A GRAPHIC video of Jodi Jones's naked and mutilated body was played in court yesterday.
The shocking images showed that the 14-year-old's throat had apparently been slashed and she had suffered massive injuries to her left breast and stomach.
Articles of clothing were scattered around the area where her body was found in woodland near her home as well as a pair of spectacles.
And the leg of a pair of trousers was wrapped around one of her arms.
“They were also given a book of photographs which showed similar gruesome scenes.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1986 on: February 23, 2023, 04:04:46 PM »
Donna Marie Boyce
So I've finished both books, listened to all the podcasts and watched the c5 documentary still I have questions that I feel should have been answered at the time since theyll never be answered now. Why did sk ask the police if they went to his first.

Gary Peden
It's bewildering that the initials DI stands for detective inspector as they neither inspected the scene nor did they detect anything given the DNA they actually found at the scene where [Name removed]'s body was found! Actually more bewildering is that the DNA they did find and actually invented a scenario to explain this away. Must take a lot of training to obliterate intuition and common sense

Sandra Lean
SK once said, on a forum chat, that he was "being humorous" when he asked that. Bear in mind, this is less than 15 minutes after he went over the wall and was reportedly "being sick" after seeing Jodi. I believe the actual crime scene was never looked for simply because they never moved from their contention that Jodi was killed where she was found - remember, they'd started building their case against Luke from the minute those first two officers arrived, so everything was viewed through that perspective.


No Sandra - it wasn’t ‘less than 15 minutes after he went over the wall

If Steven Kelly did say what you allege - as usual you haven’t provided any evidence to support your claim - Steven was saying this years later because you and Corinne Mitchell were telling lies about him.

Telling anyone who would listen to you his blood was found on Jodi Jones T-shirt, and wrongly accusing him of psycho killer Luke Mitchell’s murder

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1987 on: February 23, 2023, 04:47:02 PM »
Sandra Lean
SK once said, on a forum chat, that he was "being humorous" when he asked that. Bear in mind, this is less than 15 minutes after he went over the wall and was reportedly "being sick" after seeing Jodi. I believe the actual crime scene was never looked for simply because they never moved from their contention that Jodi was killed where she was found - remember, they'd started building their case against Luke from the minute those first two officers arrived, so everything was viewed through that perspective.


No Sandra - it wasn’t ‘less than 15 minutes after he went over the wall

If Steven Kelly did say what you allege - as usual you haven’t provided any evidence to support your claim - Steven was saying this years later because you and Corinne Mitchell were telling lies about him.

Telling anyone who would listen to you his blood was found on Jodi Jones T-shirt, and wrongly accusing him of psycho killer Luke Mitchell’s murder

And if Steven Kelly did post this on a forum and claimed he was “being humorous” - this could of been his coping mechanism in response to the trauma of what he had just witnessed
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1988 on: February 23, 2023, 05:31:56 PM »
Someone has been going round vandalising wherever with stickers

Sandra Lean
Brilliant, Dani - planning any visits to the High Court in the near future 🤣


Do these people not question why Sandra Lean has never done this and instead encourages others?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1989 on: February 24, 2023, 08:17:26 AM »
”Mrs Mitchell told the court she returned home about 5.15pm on the day of the murder to find Luke in the kitchen making tea, while Shane was upstairs.

As they ate, Luke told her Jodi had sent him a text message suggesting they meet that night



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Was liar Corinne Mitchell shouting from her back garden (while eating her prawns) while her killer son Luke was in the living room - the same living room she told James English if you sat in you couldn’t hear anyone at the back door

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Corinne Mitchell has said she ate her dinner in the garden, Shane was in his bedroom and killer Luke Mitchell in the front room

The same from room liars Corinne Mitchell and Sandra Lean have said you couldn’t hear in if someone was at the back door

How then did Corinne Mitchell hear her killer son Luke at 5.15pm - 5.30pm  🙄 tell her Jodi Jones had sent him a text


It didn’t happen!
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1990 on: February 24, 2023, 08:18:17 AM »
Sharon Indy Sunshine
Ana Azaria Yeah from memory they did not even take an ambient temperature of the scene.


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1991 on: February 24, 2023, 08:21:05 AM »
Ana Azaria
Gary Peden Yes, they never gave any reason for the time being so specific - other than that it was the only time that Luke didn't have an alibi (his mum got home from work around 5.15pm). 5.15pm is the time that the moped was seen at the v break. If the suggestion was that Luke commited the murder after the moped boys left (they couldn't say how long they'd stayed), then that makes the time frame even shorter and even less possible for it to have been Luke.


The moped could not have been seen by the V in the wall!

Ask Sandra Lean to publish the court transcript of Leonard Kelly’s evidence during the trial
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1992 on: February 24, 2023, 08:23:10 AM »
Inka Oldmoot
Didn’t Sandra suggest Jodi might have smoked cannabis a couple of hours before she was killed, making her time of death later.


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1993 on: February 24, 2023, 08:25:11 AM »
Inka Oldmoot
But at the time she was killed she still hadn’t eaten.
Maybe it’s just me but the absence of food bothers me.
Either she wasn’t hungry or there was nothing available to eat  (vodka can impede your cooking skills) or she didn’t want to wait while it was cooked.


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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1994 on: February 24, 2023, 09:40:35 AM »
Inka Oldmoot
But at the time she was killed she still hadn’t eaten.
Maybe it’s just me but the absence of food bothers me.
Either she wasn’t hungry or there was not anything available to eat (vodka can impede your cooking skills) or she didn’t want to wait while it was cooked.


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Inka Oldmoot seemes to be one of the Chief Shamers. Have they ever done any research into the Mitchells culinary requirements on the night or is it just full steam ahead on smearing the J family?  The absence of food in the Mitchell house is central to the whole case whereas whether [Name removed] had eaten or not did not prevent her from being murdered.