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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2355 on: March 28, 2023, 10:29:37 PM »
Why did a 14 year old boy have such a knife in the first place?

Looks very much like killer Luke Mitchell’s school had got wind of his knife carrying/collection - at least by August 2003

Officials say the exclusion was prompted by concern for Luke's wellbeing, and discipline at the school

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/aug/21/ukcrime.kirstyscott

Nigel Beaumont, the Edinburgh solicitor representing Luke's family, said he was being excluded for no good reason. "He is very unhappy about it," Mr Beaumont said.

Carrying knives in school was most definitely a good reason for excluding him at this time - especially given the circumstances
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2356 on: March 28, 2023, 10:44:42 PM »
Tracey Struthers
A fresh reporter, reporting facts and not lies. Its taken them 20 yrs to write a factual piece on Luke's case. As much as it's angers me of their wrongdoings I really hope they continue to report on Jodi's murder and Luke's case. A complete u-turn that was needed.

Sandra Lean
Tracey Struthers I totally agree Tracey - I know there are many of us who are so angry at their coverage in the past - and no amount of accurate reporting now could ever make up for that - but the fact that they ARE starting to report responsibly can only be a good thing - and long may it continue!!!



These ‘fresh reporters’ appear to have carried out zero due diligence

And Ashlie McNally doesn’t appear to be aware of what the Daily record had reported over 19 years ago

How many joggers came forward to say they’d been on the Roan’s dyke path/and nearby areas and been expectorating (bodily fluids) during their runs?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2357 on: March 28, 2023, 10:50:28 PM »
Tracey Struthers
A fresh reporter, reporting facts and not lies. Its taken them 20 yrs to write a factual piece on Luke's case. As much as it's angers me of their wrongdoings I really hope they continue to report on Jodi's murder and Luke's case. A complete u-turn that was needed.

Sandra Lean
Tracey Struthers I totally agree Tracey - I know there are many of us who are so angry at their coverage in the past - and no amount of accurate reporting now could ever make up for that - but the fact that they ARE starting to report responsibly can only be a good thing - and long may it continue!!!



These ‘fresh reporters’ appear to have carried out zero due diligence

And Ashlie McNally doesn’t appear to be aware of what the Mail on Sunday had reported over 19 years ago

How many joggers came forward to say they’d been on the Roan’s dyke path/and nearby areas and been expectorating (bodily fluids) during their runs?

 Sandra Lean has never mentioned any of the jogger witnesses in the area around the time as far as I’m aware

The Sunday Mail can reveal that the samples were the reason joggers were asked to provide DNA samples last week ~ 2003.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2358 on: March 28, 2023, 11:02:15 PM »
Sandra Lean
CJ Red I noticed that yesterday when I was reading through the comments - still the odd ranting one, but definitely less hateful. I guess even the most die-hard "It was him" believers must be having a bit of a wobble now, with everything that's come out.
Apparently, someone was trying to justify the deposits on Jodi's body as "washing machine transfer" on youtube - all of them, even the untested ones!!! I'd love the see the science supporting that!!! But it's interesting that there are some people out there offering "innocent explanations" for anyone else whose DNA might turn up, before the samples are even tested???


What did the Scottish criminal cases review commission (SCCRC) say about ‘lawyer’ and proxy ‘dna forensic expert’ Sandra Leans 10 dna samples back in 2013/14

Did the SCCRC comment on the joggers and all the other people who had used the path/area around the time and on why their dna may have ended up on Jodi Jones body and clothing by the time forensic testing was carried out?

Mitchell, now 25, has maintained his innocence and lodged a number of unsuccessful appeals.

His case was referred to the SCCRC, who will instruct independent experts to study crime scene evidence, including 10 DNA samples, three of them mixed with Jodi’s.

“It is believed scientists will study “Low Copy Number” DNA after breakthroughs in examination and identification techniques, allowing them to identify samples and isolate DNA strands.

“Criminologist Dr Sandra Lean, who has led the fight to free him, said she had studied the DNA reports while preparing his SCCRC application.

She added: “Numerous samples indicating the presence of forensic material were found on Jodi’s clothing and body.

“We’re told modern forensics can obtain profiles from tiny samples. If that’s the case, it must be reasonable to assume the person or persons from whom those samples originated can now be identified.

“We hope it takes us a step closer to knowing who was really involved.”

Around 100 DNA samples and 300 pieces of forensic evidence were examined in the original investigation.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/427928/New-DNA-tests-over-murdered-teen-Jodi

How many samples did the SCCRC test?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2359 on: March 28, 2023, 11:32:05 PM »
Laura Francis
Seen a guy in grangemouth Asda this morning with a #LukeMitchellIsInnocent hoodie on... Just wanted to say if your in here, I seen you and well done for spreading the word 👍

Sandra Lean
I love this - in the middle of all the heavy, serious stuff, there's Stuart Henderson and his sweatshirt, happily spreading the word as he goes about his normal day. And another group member sees him - properly made me smile!!!


Stuart Henderson @StuartH79224390
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2360 on: March 28, 2023, 11:47:12 PM »
. Emma Harris
I finished Naomi channells podcast, through the wall. Fantastic podcast, very informative and just reinforces every off feeling you have after reading about the case online. listening to poor luke at the end broke my heart especially talking about trying to see his maw and the barriers the system are using to keep him from building up evidence of being in the community. Then the next podcast automatically played. Naomi talks to a man who’s saint of a mother took in a homeless man, one of many homeless people she’s helped, fed or sheltered. This homeless man she took in out of the blue stabbed her in the neck in her own home while they watched tv. He then talked to her, kept watching tv, helped her to use the bathroom while she was bleeding and dying, then stabbed her again on the other side of her neck and continued to watch tv with her on the floor bleeding to her death. He used a scalpel on her as well as a bread knife and tortured her with the scalpel between the fatal stabs to the neck. This man had already been in the prison system before this and let out with known diagnosis of schizophrenia, and known childhood trauma, with no support or medication. This man has been in a psychiatric institution for 7 years and is being released this December! Unbelievable. I signed the petition calling to keep this man inside to serve an actual sentence for this brutal murder, also because I don’t believe this system has come to this decision based on the safety of the public in anyway. Meanwhile luke is a model prisoner, protesting his innocence for near 20 years, passing lie detectors, having every appeal swatted away, being told that if he reaches out to speak to press it will be seen as a sign of violent behaviour to come (wtf?) and being told IF he does get to visit his ill mother at her home then he’s be heavily guarded AND double handcuffed. But this murderer in a prison down south is about to be released to the public for the same crime of murder with no protest of his innocence and a history of violence leading up to committing murder, after just 7 years and none of it spent in an actual jail. It’s absolutely mind blowing.
However in the case of jodi jones murder the police and the justice system failed her the most. She fought for her life, she fought for the dna and other evidence to show us what happened to her and who did it. The police took over this fight for her and instead of taking up the fight they left her uncovered in the woods over night in the rain, they moved her before any forensics had investigated the scene or her body. And now they’ve actually destroyed what Jodi spent her last moments fighting to get.
Sorry I’ve no actual questions here but I’ve just been unable to shift the angry feeling since listening and comparing the 2 cases, and finding out the police destroyed jodis evidence, possibly her best chance of identifying her killer


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2361 on: March 29, 2023, 12:39:08 AM »
How many samples did the SCCRC test?

10 years on, DNA tests ordered in review of Jodi killing
Scottish Daily Mail 9th September 2013 by  Victoria Allen


The brutal murder of schoolgirl Jodi Jones is to be reinvestigated using DNA technology, it emerged yesterday.
Ten years after the teenager’s death, the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC) has reopened the case and ordered new forensic tests.
Her boyfriend, Luke Mitchell, is serving a life sentence for the murder – but DNA found on Jodi’s clothes could not be matched with him.
Now new advances in technology could use just a few skin cells to either place him at the scene or support Mitchell’s claims that he is innocent.
Mitchell was found guilty in 2005 and will serve at least 20 years in prison for the crime.
Now 25 and held at high-security Shotts prison in Lanarkshire, he was said yesterday to be ‘delighted’ by the new developments.
The fresh forensic tests could focus on male DNA found in a knot on the right leg of Jodi’s jeans, which were used to tie her hands, or on the fly button or zip.
These were previously tested, but a clear genetic profile of the killer could not be found. It is understood this is because the samples retrieved were too small but, a decade on, a profile can be created from just a few skin cells.
Criminologist Dr Sandra Lean, who – alongside Mitchell’s mother Corinne – has led the campaign to clear his name, said yesterday:
‘We hope this will pave the way to him being freed. The evidence used to convict Luke was so poor and there was so little of it. A 14-year-old girl was butchered and the man who did it is still out there.
‘Luke has a combination of feelings about this – he is obviously pleased this is finally getting looked at but there is an element of frustration and anger that it has taken so long.’
Mrs Mitchell said: ‘I am happy this is finally being done, but furious it wasn’t done ten years ago. There was no evidence against Luke – end of.’
The Scottish Daily Mail was unable to reach Judy Jones, Jodi’s mother, but she has previously branded Mitchell a ‘sociopath’ and expressed her relief that his repeated appeals against his conviction have failed.
On the day Jodi was killed, she was going to meet Mitchell, then aged 14. Her family reported her missing when she failed to return home. It was her teenage ‘ goth’ boyfriend who joined the search and found Jodi’s body behind a wall beside a path in the woods, with ritualistic slash marks across her eyelids, cheek, breast, abdomen and forearm.
The SCCRC has not confirmed which items from the crime scene will be re-examined, but Mitchell’s defence team believes the tests will focus on Jodi’s trousers. Other items of her clothing, including her T- shirt, underwear and trainers, may also hold DNA evidence.
The Scottish Government-funded quango, which investigates potential miscarriages of justice, will ask the Crown Office for the items it wishes to test before sending them to an independent laboratory for analysis.
Mitchell’s first appeal against his conviction was refused by senior judges in Scotland in 2008. In 2011, the UK Supreme Court ruled there were no grounds for further appeal and announced the case ‘closed’.
Last year he passed a lie detector test in jail, denying he had stabbed Jodi, but this has no legal validity in the British courts.
Mitchell’s defence team believe Robert Greens, the man known as the Da Vinci rapist, should have been investigated in connection with the murder.
Greens attacked a young woman in 2005, close to the Rosslyn Chapel in Midlothian, which appeared in the novel and film of The Da Vinci Code. He raped his victim at knifepoint and left her so badly beaten she looked as if she had been in a car crash.
At the time of Jodi’s murder, he regularly visited a relative living near to where her body was found.
A SCCRC spokesman has confirmed it is investigating the case, but added: ‘Once we have accepted a case for review, we are unable to say more with regard to the details of the investigation.’
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20130909/281595238208599
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2362 on: March 29, 2023, 01:13:53 AM »
10 years on, DNA tests ordered in review of Jodi killing
Scottish Daily Mail 9th September 2013 by  Victoria Allen


The brutal murder of schoolgirl Jodi Jones is to be reinvestigated using DNA technology, it emerged yesterday.
Ten years after the teenager’s death, the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC) has reopened the case and ordered new forensic tests.
Her boyfriend, Luke Mitchell, is serving a life sentence for the murder – but DNA found on Jodi’s clothes could not be matched with him.
Now new advances in technology could use just a few skin cells to either place him at the scene or support Mitchell’s claims that he is innocent.
Mitchell was found guilty in 2005 and will serve at least 20 years in prison for the crime.
Now 25 and held at high-security Shotts prison in Lanarkshire, he was said yesterday to be ‘delighted’ by the new developments.
The fresh forensic tests could focus on male DNA found in a knot on the right leg of Jodi’s jeans, which were used to tie her hands, or on the fly button or zip.
These were previously tested, but a clear genetic profile of the killer could not be found. It is understood this is because the samples retrieved were too small but, a decade on, a profile can be created from just a few skin cells.
Criminologist Dr Sandra Lean, who – alongside Mitchell’s mother Corinne – has led the campaign to clear his name, said yesterday:
‘We hope this will pave the way to him being freed. The evidence used to convict Luke was so poor and there was so little of it. A 14-year-old girl was butchered and the man who did it is still out there.
‘Luke has a combination of feelings about this – he is obviously pleased this is finally getting looked at but there is an element of frustration and anger that it has taken so long.’
Mrs Mitchell said: ‘I am happy this is finally being done, but furious it wasn’t done ten years ago. There was no evidence against Luke – end of.’
The Scottish Daily Mail was unable to reach Judy Jones, Jodi’s mother, but she has previously branded Mitchell a ‘sociopath’ and expressed her relief that his repeated appeals against his conviction have failed.
On the day Jodi was killed, she was going to meet Mitchell, then aged 14. Her family reported her missing when she failed to return home. It was her teenage ‘ goth’ boyfriend who joined the search and found Jodi’s body behind a wall beside a path in the woods, with ritualistic slash marks across her eyelids, cheek, breast, abdomen and forearm.
The SCCRC has not confirmed which items from the crime scene will be re-examined, but Mitchell’s defence team believes the tests will focus on Jodi’s trousers. Other items of her clothing, including her T- shirt, underwear and trainers, may also hold DNA evidence.
The Scottish Government-funded quango, which investigates potential miscarriages of justice, will ask the Crown Office for the items it wishes to test before sending them to an independent laboratory for analysis.
Mitchell’s first appeal against his conviction was refused by senior judges in Scotland in 2008. In 2011, the UK Supreme Court ruled there were no grounds for further appeal and announced the case ‘closed’.
Last year he passed a lie detector test in jail, denying he had stabbed Jodi, but this has no legal validity in the British courts.
Mitchell’s defence team believe Robert Greens, the man known as the Da Vinci rapist, should have been investigated in connection with the murder.
Greens attacked a young woman in 2005, close to the Rosslyn Chapel in Midlothian, which appeared in the novel and film of The Da Vinci Code. He raped his victim at knifepoint and left her so badly beaten she looked as if she had been in a car crash.
At the time of Jodi’s murder, he regularly visited a relative living near to where her body was found.
A SCCRC spokesman has confirmed it is investigating the case, but added: ‘Once we have accepted a case for review, we are unable to say more with regard to the details of the investigation.’
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20130909/281595238208599

So what samples did the SCCRC test, what exactly were the results and what did the SCCRC say about the other samples  ‘lawyer’ Sandra Lean submitted to them?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2363 on: March 29, 2023, 02:09:18 AM »
“How does a journalist do the job of letting the public know what is going on, in a case evoking widespread outrage and fear, whilst protecting vulnerable participants and the presumption of innocence?

“The defence made an early, unsuccessful attempt to have the BBC found in contempt for reporting on the planned reconstruction of the wall behind which the victim's body was found.

The Telegraph was also called into court to apologise for an article it published early in the trial

Defence counsel apparently even objected at one point to being sketched by BBC courtroom artist Julia Quenzler, who had flown up from London for the trial.

Broadcasters especially began to struggle to make meaningful packages



Then along comes grifter and ‘lawyer’ Sandra Lean and her innocence fraud narratives, along with ‘psychology student’ Colin Bowman


The tight Scottish approach to identification evidence means photographs of the accused are rarely shown.

In the Mitchell trial, however, it was made clear by the judge that shots of the crime-scene might themselves amount to contempt.

This unusual stricture began to make sense as the Crown's case developed, but would have been difficult to predict.

The trial judge, although in no way obstructive to the media's need to do their job, felt unable to give a pre-trial briefing, beyond saying that the media could report what went on in court.

For television reports, this resulted in a continual struggle to describe adequately to the audience images - of photographs, of weapons, of maps - which the people in this public court were seeing; hence the poignant over-use of the home video of Jodi Jones.

The challenge to make television coverage relevant and comprehensible, especially when the evidence was complicated and circumstantial, was at least partly mitigated by the courtroom sketches, but increased as the weeks wore on.

In the context of the trial of a young man for the brutal murder of a young girl, reporters' difficulties pall into insignificance.

A combination of factors in the Jodi Jones murder trial, however - the young age and the late arrest of the accused, the nature of the evidence, the aggressive approach of the defence to coverage and the absence of visual material - made this a uniquely hard case for 21st century court reporting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4192947.stm


Grifter and innocence fraud pusher Sandra Lean exploited the reporting on this case and has drip fed anyone who has been charmed and/or manipulated by her false, misleading and often times disingenuous nonsense.

She is now claiming - without saying so - joggers spit might find an imaginary killer

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All this from a woman who appears to have put her own needs before her two daughters

Because she appears to have been too busy either at college/university, dating an alleged psychopath (Simon from her acknowledgment section in No Smoke), writing a book about guilty killers.

Then going on to date and into partnership with an un-convicted baby killer and sexual predator and travelling around the UK and Scotland with him in a former post office van - pretending to the Scottsh centre for crime and justice research she was ‘interviewing’ people for her fraudulent PhD.

Producing a podcast on a sexually deviant killer (Matthew Hamlen), writing another innocence fraud book on a sadistic psycho killer and his enabling mother ….

And some joggers spit or a dogs saliva might find an imaginary killer - who in reality has been in prison for the past 17/18 years

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2364 on: March 29, 2023, 02:58:47 AM »
Tracey Struthers
A fresh reporter, reporting facts and not lies. Its taken them 20 yrs to write a factual piece on Luke's case. As much as it's angers me of their wrongdoings I really hope they continue to report on Jodi's murder and Luke's case. A complete u-turn that was needed.

Sandra Lean
Tracey Struthers I totally agree Tracey - I know there are many of us who are so angry at their coverage in the past - and no amount of accurate reporting now could ever make up for that  - but the fact that they ARE starting to report responsibly can only be a good thing - and long may it continue!!!

Sandra Lean pretending to be ‘angry’ with the ‘coverage in the past’

The same ‘coverage’ she used to write and publish a book on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell, and 6 other dangerous, guilty killers innocence fraud

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Not one of these ‘reporters’ has reported responsibly - or accurately - and some of them are simply repeating what deluded dupe Ashlee McNally wrote and published

Always a red flag when fraudster Sandra Lean makes the claim - ‘the fact they ARE starting to report responsibly’

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And almost as bad as when she stated ‘I love podcasters who really do their homework’ about Naomi Channell
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/25/killer-luke-mitchell-deluded-matthew-elliotts-friend-gravy-train-jumper-naomi-channell-part-133/

Naomi Channell most definitely did NOT do her ‘homework’!

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2365 on: March 29, 2023, 03:33:06 AM »
Always a red flag when fraudster Sandra Lean makes the claim - ‘the fact they ARE starting to report responsibly’

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Then there’s David Wilson over on Twitter

Prof David Wilson
@ProfDavidWilson
I became increasingly aware of how the stairs were being used to hurt and even to kill while researching my latest book #murderathome - I even suggested a term for this “descendre mal”.
dailymail.co.uk
Policeman, 23, convicted of controlling and coercive behaviour
Thomas Gair, 23, pushed his pregnant girlfriend Chloe Bradley down the stairs at their home in Norton, Teesside after three years of abusive behaviour.
11:30 AM · Mar 28, 2023

https://twitter.com/ProfDavidWilson/status/1640662679760130049

Interesting that a ‘criminologist’ who would usually look at the reasons why people commit crimes and find ways to reduce re-offending, comes up with a term many people may not know the meaning of.

And yet doesn’t advise the readers of his book with stairs in their homes to install smart cameras at the top and bottom of them


Crime scene: Descendre mal . . . a calculating murder by any other name
Professor David Wilson's next book is going to describe how the different rooms of our houses have been harnessed to facilitate murder , including the staircase.

“I have seen lots of stories recently about people falling from windows.
Some have died, some haven’t but what really grabbed my attention?
Well, I’m currently researching my next book, which is going to describe how the different rooms of our houses have been harnessed to facilitate murder and I’ve been expecting to find some ­contemporary cases of defenestration.
This is a French word which literally means to be thrown out of a window to your death – you are “de” ­“fenestrated” and the French for window is la fenetre.
I suppose that most people will now associate this method of murder with Bran in Game of Thrones being pushed from the window by Jamie.
In the hope of keeping his incestuous affair secret, Jamie pushes Bran from the window, although Bran survived the fall.
However, there are also some very real cases of defenestration including the “Defenestration of Prague” in 1618, which started the Thirty Years War, and of course William, Earl of Douglas, was thrown to his death from a window in Stirling Castle by James II in 1452.
In my research for the book I did find a number of contemporary examples in Canada, China and America of murder by defenestration but I couldn’t discover any recent British cases at all.
This is perhaps because the design of windows has changed so much that this type of crime has been made more
difficult.
But what took me by surprise was the extraordinary number of murders that take place in Britain where the victim has been pushed down the stairs.
This is perhaps because the design of windows has changed so much that this type of crime has been made more
difficult.
This type of murder – although the charge was often later reduced to manslaughter (or culpable homicide in Scotland) – invariably occurred after the victim and the perpetrator had been drinking and there had been some kind of disagreement.
The victim was often described as being “wobbly on their feet”.
There was therefore no intention to kill the victim – there was no mens rea or “guilty mind” on the part of the ­perpetrator – and hence the charge of manslaughter, rather than murder.
But who is to say that this was the case, especially if there were no witnesses to speak up on behalf of the victim?
It also made me wonder about all the “accidents” that are recorded involving the stairs and which lead to a death might have been the result of something more sinister.
I also discovered that there is in fact no technical criminological, or legal term to describe a murder or manslaughter that is the result of the victim being pushed down the stairs.
That set me thinking.
What could I call this form of crime?
I thought about the word defenestration and again took my inspiration from the French language and this is what I have come up with – “descendre mal”. Literally to descend badly, as descendre in French means to “come down” and mal is “wrong” and also the root of “malevolent”.
So you heard it here first – descendre mal – is the new term that I am proposing to use if someone gets pushed down the stairs.
Oh, and don’t get me started on the unique role that kitchens have played in the history of murder in Britain – that will have to wait until the book is published in 2022.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/descendre-mal----24915030


David Wilson is another innocence fraud pusher who suggested Carl Bridgewater might have been murdered by killer Bert Spencer, even though Patrick Molloy, James Robinson and cousins Michael and Vincent Hickey only ever had their murder (Patrick Malloy was convicted for manslaughter) convictions deemed ‘unsafe’.

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2366 on: March 29, 2023, 06:47:39 AM »
Gary Peden
Another item that was denied that ever existed was the story written about killing a girl in the woods cannot remember the land's name who wrote it but they actually had that still in productions, yet they lied!! The people being trust our safety and well-being with telling blatant lies, it is playing out like a Hollywood movie

Sandra Lean
Gary Peden I was looking at the lists yesterday - there was the essay, the re-write of the essay, some poetry and an envelope of "writing" - all of it kept from the defence. Now, they denied the existence of the essay, but what, I wonder, was in the poetry and the envelope of "writing" (presumably all connected to the same person) that they felt compelled to keep it completely hidden? I mean, they took it, so they must have thought it was related in some way? Sadly, we'll never know, now, but it really does make you wonder, doesn't it???

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In reality Sandra Lean does not know!

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2367 on: March 29, 2023, 06:54:38 AM »
Sandra Lean
Absolutely Rachel Roll - they are, on the one hand, at pains to point out that the prosecution case "wasn't founded on DNA evidence," but, on the other, claiming that "extensive forensic analysis" was carried out. Why?

There are two possibilities - they knew that founding the case on forensic evidence would have cleared Luke, and they couldn't risk that, or they used their extremely poor "forensic analysis" to make it look like no stone was being left unturned, knowing, all along, that it was nothing more than a smokescreen


No they did not Sandra Lean!

You’ve been making it up as you go along - for almost 20 years!

The ‘smokescreen’ is your own


Around 100 DNA samples and 300 pieces of forensic evidence were examined in the original investigation.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/427928/New-DNA-tests-over-murdered-teen-Jodi

How many samples did the SCCRC test - what were the results - and what exactly did the SCCRC say about the dna ?
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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2368 on: March 29, 2023, 05:05:35 PM »
Then there’s David Wilson over on Twitter

Prof David Wilson
David Wilson is another innocence fraud pusher who suggested Carl Bridgewater might have been murdered by killer Bert Spencer, even though Patrick Molloy, James Robinson and cousins Michael and Vincent Hickey only ever had their murder (Patrick Malloy was convicted for manslaughter) convictions deemed ‘unsafe’.

For all his faults, David Wilson does not include LM in his innocence campaigns. One of Mitchell's defenders wrote to him recently and he replied that he did not share their concerns over the case.


Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2369 on: March 29, 2023, 05:21:51 PM »
From reading the account of the party it seems that several ‘friends’ saw Luke jabbing Jodi with a knife yet none of them were called as witnesses. Only two possible reasons why that would have happened either a) everyone was so off their faces that they would not have made reliable witnesses or b) it was a fabricated account for financial gain.

It states in the article why she wasn't called.  And did the Mitchell's not give their fabricated account to Sky TV for free? Maybe not everyone that speaks to the press asks for money. Or what if it was a true account for a minor financial gain - would that make a difference.