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Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2955 on: April 19, 2023, 10:54:15 AM »
Lots of people from Dalkeith (and other areas) have been coming forward for some time with facts and information that have never seen the light day in any of charlatan and fraudster Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud narratives

I’m sure Sandra said something similar that people were coming forward with lots of stuff not used at trial either. Like with how they were ignored by the police or intimidated by them. How parents were told if their kids support Luke the people in the village would not be happy, in other words making them feel unsafe and intimidated. All seems to come back to the police in this case. They really did mess up.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2956 on: April 19, 2023, 11:12:58 AM »
I’m sure Sandra said something similar that people were coming forward with lots of stuff not used at trial either. Like with how they were ignored by the police or intimidated by them. How parents were told if their kids support Luke the people in the village would not be happy, in other words making them feel unsafe and intimidated. All seems to come back to the police in this case. They really did mess up.

I’m not referring to gossip and innuendo, I’m referring to evidence given by various witnesses during the trial, many of whom weren’t named by the media or in con artist Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud narrative

Remember Sandra Lean did not attend the 42 day trial!
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2957 on: April 19, 2023, 11:20:04 AM »
I’m not referring to gossip and innuendo, I’m referring to evidence given by various witnesses during the trial, many of whom weren’t named by the media or in con artist Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud narrative

Remember Sandra Lean did not attend the 42 day trial!

So is Sandra, she is referring to statements never used and the people giving the statement coming forward to say how they were treated by police I believe. How come your info is honest and trustworthy but Sandra’s is gossip and innuendo? Why are we to take your word but not Sandra’s.  Given the choice of believing you or Sandra I know who I think is more trustworthy. But that’s my opinion.

Have these people ‘came forward ‘ to you? Who have they came forward too and why did they feel the need. Do you have sources for this. Incase you ask mine are all from Sandra updates and videos which I’m sure is not good enough for you.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2023, 11:24:32 AM by Bullseye »

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2958 on: April 19, 2023, 11:25:44 AM »
So is Sandra, she is referring to statements never used and the people giving the statement coming forward to say how they were treated by police I believe.

What like the fantasist who pretended they saw [Name removed] following his sister that night 🙄
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2959 on: April 19, 2023, 11:35:34 AM »
What like the fantasist who pretended they saw [Name removed] following his sister that night 🙄

Was there not 2 different independent witnesses that said that and also provided a statement to police? But they are fantasists in your opinion? They might be mistaken, same as AB and LW could have been but I would not call them fantasists.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2960 on: April 19, 2023, 11:45:11 AM »
I’m not referring to gossip and innuendo, I’m referring to evidence given by various witnesses during the trial, many of whom weren’t named by the media or in con artist Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud narrative

Remember Sandra Lean did not attend the 42 day trial!

And neither did you so where is your information coming from and what are you ‘sources’ motives?

Or do you, perhaps, just make it up?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2961 on: April 19, 2023, 12:14:12 PM »
I’m not referring to gossip and innuendo, I’m referring to evidence given by various witnesses during the trial, many of whom weren’t named by the media or in con artist Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud narrative

Remember Sandra Lean did not attend the 42 day trial!

Did you attend the 42 day trial??

It seems you are working on the same mindset as the police. Luke did it, these statements don’t fit so discard that evidence and stick with the evidence against Luke. Really explains a lot.
Who are the many witnesses that have came forward since the trial and what is it they are coming forward with. I don’t mean for you to use names. Can you provide examples and sources or is this just gossip, innuendo and fantasy also?

Offline TruthSeeker2003

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2962 on: April 19, 2023, 03:37:06 PM »
‘Caz’ from Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud book ‘No Smoke’

Caz gave Sandra the ‘strength & courage to fly’ - allegedly - and wouldn’t let Sandra ‘off the hook’

‘Not even for a minute’
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/19/copy-of-acknowledgements-section-from-sandra-leans-1st-discredited-book-no-smoke/

Coming forward to whom. Tell me Stephanie how us it you are the self appointed expert in this case?
“I am a Truthseeker, searching for truth” “Make of that what you will”

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2963 on: April 19, 2023, 05:29:18 PM »
Jacqueline Johnston (Today)
Just seen a comment of mine & Marie Milne from this group on twitter. The tweet is making allegations about Sandra Lean & Scott Forbes. The comment made has been taken  completely out of context. My twitter account has been accessed from another device and they have also obviosly accessed this group. Just for Information. Not going to be cyber bullied

 *&^^&

Sandra Lean
Jacqueline Johnston - this is the oldest troll trick in the book - I've got emails from a troll who admitted altering an email received from me, then putting it out on social media as if it was what I'd actually said. She ADMITTED doing that - her reason? Because she knew it would "pi$$ me off." Don't give them an ounce of you're energy!!!


Yet more bare faced lies

 *&^^&

Sandra Lean 23rd November 2010
I wrote a long email on October 4th, explaining the circumstances. Part of that email, however, referred to a post Stephanie had put on the Wrongly Accused forum meantime, in her belief that I was ignoring her. (Note this is only a 48 hour period.) I wrote, “I'm also interested in why you chose to use my facebook post (adapted) to post on wrongly accused. Following from Shirley's post as it does, it makes it look like one of the "un-named" individuals is me. I have never attacked you, criticised you or made any other negative comment about you anywhere - I may simply be reading too much into it, but that is certainly how it came across.”

Stephanie responded:“....yes, I did use your post on facebook on the wrongly accused, and when I did I knew you would be more annoyed over that than you are about what I am going through at the moment. And I have a couple of friends that will verify that. “

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383377.html?PHPSESSID=8iugs77lu55bue9lauct621fh4#msg383377

 *&^^&
« Last Edit: April 19, 2023, 06:09:59 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2964 on: April 19, 2023, 05:34:00 PM »
Given the choice of believing you or Sandra I know who I think is more trustworthy. But that’s my opinion.

Have these people ‘came forward ‘ to you? Who have they came forward too and why did they feel the need. Do you have sources for this. Incase you ask mine are all from Sandra updates and videos which I’m sure is not good enough for you.

Regardless of who is more trustworthy, I might have given SL some credit for perseverence if she had addressed the reasons for LM's conviction instead of implicating the victim's family and friends and encouraging a witch hunt. I really can't think of anything lower than doing that and claiming it's Justice for Jodi.

Again, there is no evidence in 20 years that Lean & Co are any further forward than they first started despite the recent media commotion, and that's all it is, a commotion to deflect and divert and another year later more claims of "new evidence" etc.


Offline TruthSeeker2003

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2965 on: April 19, 2023, 06:00:02 PM »
I’m not referring to gossip and innuendo, I’m referring to evidence given by various witnesses during the trial, many of whom weren’t named by the media or in con artist Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud narrative

Remember Sandra Lean did not attend the 42 day trial!

Were you at the trial? Do you have the court transcripts?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2023, 06:02:03 PM by TruthSeeker2003 »
“I am a Truthseeker, searching for truth” “Make of that what you will”

Offline TruthSeeker2003

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2966 on: April 19, 2023, 06:05:28 PM »
Jacqueline Johnston (Today)
Just seen a comment of mine & Marie Milne from this group on twitter. The tweet is making allegations about Sandra Lean & Scott Forbes. The comment made has been taken  completely out of context. My twitter account has been accessed from another device and they have also obviosly accessed this group. Just for Information. Not going to be cyber bullied

Sandra Lean
Jacqueline Johnston - this is the oldest troll trick in the book - I've got emails from a troll who admitted altering an email received from me, then putting it out on social media as if it was what I'd actually said. She ADMITTED doing that - her reason? Because she knew it would "pi$$ me off." Don't give them an ounce of you're energy!!!


Yet more bare faced lies

 *&^^&

Sandra Lean 23rd November 2010
I wrote a long email on October 4th, explaining the circumstances. Part of that email, however, referred to a post Stephanie had put on the Wrongly Accused forum meantime, in her belief that I was ignoring her. (Note this is only a 48 hour period.) I wrote, “I'm also interested in why you chose to use my facebook post (adapted) to post on wrongly accused. Following from Shirley's post as it does, it makes it look like one of the "un-named" individuals is me. I have never attacked you, criticised you or made any other negative comment about you anywhere - I may simply be reading too much into it, but that is certainly how it came across.”

Stephanie responded:“....yes, I did use your post on facebook on the wrongly accused, and when I did I knew you would be more annoyed over that than you are about what I am going through at the moment. And I have a couple of friends that will verify that. “

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383377.html?PHPSESSID=8iugs77lu55bue9lauct621fh4#msg383377

 *&^^&


Your word against hers. She doesn't disclose a date or email...
“I am a Truthseeker, searching for truth” “Make of that what you will”

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2967 on: April 19, 2023, 06:27:11 PM »
Regardless of who is more trustworthy, I might have given SL some credit for perseverence if she had addressed the reasons for LM's conviction instead of implicating the victim's family and friends and encouraging a witch hunt. I really can't think of anything lower than doing that and claiming it's Justice for Jodi.

Again, there is no evidence in 20 years that Lean & Co are any further forward than they first started despite the recent media commotion, and that's all it is, a commotion to deflect and divert and another year later more claims of "new evidence" etc.

All Dr Lean has every done is point out the holes in the police investigation, holes which individuals from all sections of the criminal justice system, David Wilson being only the most recent, also have concerns about. That the questions left by the investigation may, if answered, implicate those close to the victim’s family is certainly not Dr Lean’s fault and certainly not by design.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2968 on: April 19, 2023, 07:24:02 PM »
What has Sandra Lean said about Corinne Mitchell bleaching her house Thora Allen and does Sandra know what was said during the trial about this?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2969 on: April 19, 2023, 08:14:24 PM »
What was David High, David Tulloch and the other lads evidence regarding the torrential downpour at 7:30pm that evening?

And where did each of the three youths say they were when the heavens opened?

When Does Con Artist Sandra Lean Plan To ‘Attack’ The Wealth Of Circumstantial Evidence That Killer Luke Mitchell’s Convictions Rest On? (Part 177)
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/17/when-does-con-artist-sandra-lean-plan-to-attack-the-wealth-of-circumstantial-evidence-that-killer-luke-mitchells-convictions-rest-on-part-177/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation