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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lea
« Reply #4485 on: November 09, 2023, 09:45:49 PM »
Great stuff. I work for a registered charity so have that covered. Maybe you could send extra blankets to LM, C/o HMP Greenock along with a cheery note to keep his head up (for the next 20 years).

Then we have something in common.

As to the blankets, I believe they already give them blankets in prison. Something to do with human rights or some such nonsense.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4486 on: November 09, 2023, 10:08:03 PM »
Did Shane say that he saw Luke?
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https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/did-shane-say-that-he-saw-luke.html?m=1

What from the above parts of the trial transcripts related to Shane Mitchell’s evidence is missing?

“LUKE Mitchell's brother recoiled in horror yesterday as he was shown gruesome pictures of Jodi Jones's naked and mutilated body.

Shane Mitchell, 23, was confronted with the shocking images in court.

He turned away after being shown the first photo and immediately asked for a break.

Shane sat in the witness box sipping a glass of water and wiping tears from his eyes before he had to look at another four photos.

He then admitted that, when he returned home on the day that Jodi died, he watched porn on his computer because he thought he was alone in the house.

Luke Mitchell, now 16, denies murdering Jodi, and maintains he was in the house when she died.

Shane told the High Court in Edinburgh that, on June 30, 2003, he arrived home at Newbattle Abbey Crescent, Dalkeith, Midlothian, at 4.50pm.

He said he went upstairs to his bedroom and watched porn on the internet.

Advocate depute Alan Turnbull, QC, told Shane he had no desire to humiliate or embarrass him but he wanted to know if he did anything else at that time.

When Shane said he wasn't, Mr Turnbull asked him to look at photos of Jodi's body where it was found near the town's wooded Roan's Dyke path.

As he glanced at the first photo, Mr Turnbull stated: 'I am not surprised to see your reaction. You looked a bit horrified and looked away, didn't you?

Shane replied: 'Yes.' Mr Turnbull added: 'These are not pleasant.The reason I asked you to look at these is so you can appreciate what we are dealing with. Do you understand now?

'Do you appreciate I can't let embarrassment stand in the way of getting to the bottom of this?'

Again, Shane replied: 'Yes.' The witness then admitted he had been engaged in a sex act while watching porn.

He agreed with the prosecutor that he wouldn't have done that if he thought anyone else had been home.

Mr Turnbull asked him: 'On that evening,about4.55pm,who did you think was in the house?'

Shane told him: 'No one at that time.' The advocate depute then asked: 'Did you see Luke when you went down after the internet session?'

The witness told the court:'I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother. He could have been there.'

Shane said his mum arrived home about 5.15pm and he joined her downstairs.

Mr Turnbull read out a police statement from Luke Mitchell in which he said he had tea with his mum before leaving the house at about 5.30pm to wait for Jodi.

His mother was present at the interview and, when police asked if he had eaten with Shane, his brother had asked her: 'Shane wasn't there, was he?'

His mum had intervened: 'No.' Luke had then added: 'Shane was not in when I left.'

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+PICS+HORROR+OF+MITCHELL%27S+BROTHER%3B+Tears+at+death+trial.-a0126987509
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4487 on: November 09, 2023, 10:13:40 PM »

“The witness told the court:'I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother. He could have been there.'

Shane said his mum arrived home about 5.15pm and he joined her downstairs.

Shane Mitchell was still on the Internet at 5:15pm


4:45pm-4:50pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell arrived home
4:53pm Shane Mitchell logged into the Internet
5:16om Shane Mitchell logged out of the Internet
6:04pm Shane Mitchell made a telephone call to someone using his mobile
6:20pm Shane Mitchell used his mobile phone to call Gary Coyle’s phone number
6:21pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell left home to drive to Gary Coyle’s house

When Shane Mitchell claimed Corinne Mitchell “arrived home at about 5:15pm” - was this one of the lies Shane first told the police back in July 2003?

And did the court reporter omit to mention in their article that Alan Turnbull was referring to what Shane Mitchell had stated in one of his police statements?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4488 on: November 09, 2023, 10:27:30 PM »
Did Shane say that he saw Luke?
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https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/did-shane-say-that-he-saw-luke.html?m=1

Where in the trial transcripts did Shane Mitchell say he “went upstairs to his bedroom and watched porn on the internet”?

Shane Mitchell’s police statement stated;

I went back upstairs

I switched the computer on

I was about to log on to the internet and I got shouted down for dinner by Luke

I’d only been upstairs for 5 minutes and I didn’t get onto the internet


This is similar to the fabricated story Shaun Hall told the police about his trip up to Lincolnshire on the 16th December 2001 - that didn’t happen either 

Extracts From The Trial Transcripts

Alan Turnbull: Okay. It has always, since that day, been true that you started off by watching pornographic sites?

Shane Mitchell: Yes
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4489 on: November 09, 2023, 10:49:01 PM »
Did Shane say that he saw Luke?
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https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/did-shane-say-that-he-saw-luke.html?m=1

The witness told the court:'I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother. He could have been there.'

When did Shane Mitchell say the above in the court?

Shane Mitchell:

I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother

He may have been there but I don’t remember whether I saw him or not

So the reporter used the word “could” instead of “may” - meaning this wasn’t a verbatim quote
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4490 on: November 09, 2023, 11:02:20 PM »
Shane Mitchell:

I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother

He may have been there but I don’t remember whether I saw him or not

So the reporter used the word “could” instead of “may” - meaning this wasn’t a verbatim quote

Didn’t Shane Mitchell say he had a problem with his memory due to previous drug addiction ?

Killer Luke Mitchell: Brother Shane Mitchell Damaged By Drug Abuse (Part 193)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/29/killer-luke-mitchell-brother-shane-mitchell-damaged-by-drug-abuse-part-193/

The Scotsman reported;

Asked what his mother had said to him after giving her statement Mr Mitchell replied:

“She said to me: ‘You came in and Luke was with us and we had tatties for dinner, then you went back out again.
’"


 *&^^&

Shane Mitchell did not leave the house until “just after” 6:20pm
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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4491 on: November 09, 2023, 11:09:58 PM »
When did Shane Mitchell say the above in the court?

Shane Mitchell:

I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother

He may have been there but I don’t remember whether I saw him or not

So the reporter used the word “could” instead of “may” - meaning this wasn’t a verbatim quote

It's fairly obvious he never saw his brother (and vice versa) or the two charlatans would have had him on their podcasts by now to support their scam. 

Oh aye, he just wants a quiet life so won't speak up. I've heard it from numerous sources he wants nothing to do with LM or CM.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4492 on: November 09, 2023, 11:11:38 PM »
It's fairly obvious he never saw his brother (and vice versa) or the two charlatans would have had him on their podcasts by now to support their scam. 

Oh aye, he just wants a quiet life so won't speak up. I've heard it from numerous sources he wants nothing to do with LM or CM.

It has been confirmed (via offline sources) that Shane and Philip Mitchell have nothing to do with killer Luke Mitchell or Corinne Mitchell
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4493 on: November 09, 2023, 11:17:09 PM »
The Scotsman reported;

Asked what his mother had said to him after giving her statement Mr Mitchell replied:

“She said to me: ‘You came in and Luke was with us and we had tatties for dinner, then you went back out again.
’"


Note how the above does not appear in the transcripts which have been published

Did Shane say that he saw Luke?
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https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/did-shane-say-that-he-saw-luke.html?m=1
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4494 on: November 09, 2023, 11:25:25 PM »
It has been confirmed (via offline sources) that Shane and Philip Mitchell have nothing to do with killer Luke Mitchell or Corinne Mitchell

I can confirm that having heard it directly in his company.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4495 on: November 09, 2023, 11:25:31 PM »
Didn’t Shane Mitchell say he had a problem with his memory due to previous drug addiction ?

Killer Luke Mitchell: Brother Shane Mitchell Damaged By Drug Abuse (Part 193)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/29/killer-luke-mitchell-brother-shane-mitchell-damaged-by-drug-abuse-part-193/

Guilty verdict, the AD and his "attempts" at putting forth that evidence, perfectly executed, = Accepted.

This nothing from nothing that the defence failed to produce enough doubt around nothing - Marvellous stuff, is it not?

SM, what do we do with the male that everyone has to speak for, not from him but for him -

You have no idea what SM has felt throughout those years, has he given you a statement to put out on his behalf? - No.

However, when we can only go with what we know, and not just the cherry picked attempts at anything here -

20yrs old when the murder took place, the claim of having early onset dementia due to severe drug abuse "years ago"

Yes we know it is claims, but let us focus on those claims here.

What was this "years ago?"

How many to be precise, that had his younger brother, that "child" at 14yrs old heavily abusing cannabis, dishing it out like sweeties, drinking, smoking with no parental control.

Sought no help, zero deterrent in place, offered and refused help.

After seeing the elder at an equally young age becoming damaged by drug abuse?

Spare us the bog standard infantile tit for tat nonsense.

The discussion is around reform, steps taking to help, for prevention.

Had parental steps been taken, one, there would have been no early onset dementia to use, and secondly, a young girl may have survived, that is reality here, around reform starting at home with children.

Those under a certain age and not adults.

SM was treated surprisingly gentle, he was given false alibi in a murder investigation.

At best a killer may have escaped justice, at worse, further lives may have been lost -

SM may very well be counting his blessings and many more besides, that by taken the correct course of action, he may feel he has equalled out his wrong, thankful even, that whilst impeding that investigation, no further loss of life had happened in that time period -

But guess what?

Should LM have killed again prior to any arrest, would the police be blamed here for the brother and mother impeding and holding any arrest up? Just a thought.

Reality is, that not you nor any other, knows that LM did not murder that young girl, we can all discuss until the cows come home, put forth what we feel may or not have been wrong -

You and every other, has failed to even scratch the surface of proving that he could not have killed that young girl - Fact.

Spare us the interviews nonsense - Not you nor the egos have listened to those audio/video recorded interviews, nor held the full court transcripts, and for what one may have there is certainly no honesty around them, is there now?

 8((()*/

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4496 on: November 10, 2023, 12:42:51 AM »
Productions of the Mitchell’s landline calls (production #202) and Shane Mitchell’s mobile calls (production #246) were shown to the jury

4:45pm-4:50pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell arrived home
4:53pm Shane Mitchell logged into the Internet
5:16om Shane Mitchell logged out of the Internet
6:04pm Shane Mitchell made a telephone call to someone using his mobile
6:20pm Shane Mitchell used his mobile phone to call Gary Coyle’s phone number
6:21pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell left home to drive to Gary Coyle’s house

Alan Turnbull: Now later on that evening did you go out?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: Do you remember where you went?

Shane Mitchell: Gary Coyle’s house

Alan Turnbull: And is he a friend?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: Okay. If you look with me again please at the document which records the list of your telephone calls, you might be able to work out when you left. The production is 246. Sorry, could we see it on the screen please.
Now we looked, remember, yesterday at the call of 4 minutes past 6, that’s when you were on your way to Mr Beverage’s house?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: The next call from your mobile is at 20 past 6, d’you see that?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: And do you recognise that number that’s been called?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: Whose is that?

Shane Mitchell: Thats’s Gary Coyle’s number

Alan Turnbull: Okay. Now just to cross reference this, look at production number 202. It’s probably easier if I show you the page. Now if we just put the calls from your landline on the phone. Thank you. This is a record of the telephone calls from your house telephone that evening 

Shane Mitchell: Uh-huh

Alan Turnbull: And you’ll see that there are no calls made from the house after 16:01 until 21:57, when there is a call to a Bathgate number?

Shane Mitchell: Uh-huh

Alan Turnbull: So that we can see that you appear to have called Gary Coyle from your mobile but not from the landline?

Shane Mitchell: Correct

Alan Turnbull: Does that give you an assistance as to remembering what time you left to go out and see Gary Coyle?

Shane Mitchell: I left to see Gary just after I phoned him

Alan Turnbull: Just after you phoned him?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: So that would be just after 20 past 6

Shane Mitchell: Uh-huh

Alan Turnbull: Okay. And had you been home then accordingly between 5 to 5 and let’s say 20 past 6?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: Alright. And after spending some time with Mr Coyle did you return home again that evening?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: Do you know approximately what time?

Shaine Mitchell: As soon as I got in the house I (incomprehensible) phone, so round about     
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4497 on: November 10, 2023, 09:35:49 AM »
It's fairly obvious he never saw his brother (and vice versa) or the two charlatans would have had him on their podcasts by now to support their scam. 

Oh aye, he just wants a quiet life so won't speak up. I've heard it from numerous sources he wants nothing to do with LM or CM.

I doubt scammer Sandra Lean has seen the trial transcripts relating to Shane Mitchell

What reason would killer Luke Mitchell and/or Sandra Lean have had to have them transcribed?

They’ve both always known Shane Mitchell lied and there would have been no points to appeal on
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4498 on: November 10, 2023, 09:40:03 AM »
TJ C
@TJC1419439
Why were we told we couldn't get the transcripts when we can, and why are there things in the transcripts we weren't told about? …http://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com
11:36 PM · Nov 7, 2023
https://twitter.com/TJC1419439/status/1722035236945457554

Because scammer Sandra Lean did not want you all to work out the fact she’s been deceiving you

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4499 on: November 10, 2023, 11:57:19 AM »
I take it that you’ll be adding a few pounds to the Crowdfunding page Nicholas will inevitably set up to obtain the trial transcripts?

Now that Shane Mitchell’s trial testimony has been transcribed - the public should be able to get copies of those transcripts at a far lower cost
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation