What's Significant About LM Finding J J?

[Nicholas]

Lorraine Fleming.

Did Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh contact the police on the 1st July 2003?

What was the date they first made contact with the police about their sighting and what did they tell police?

What did police notes say these two witnesses first said?

And if Lorraine Flemings evidence changed by the time of killer Luke Mitchell’s trial was it because Donald Findlay ‘confused’ her?

[faithlilly]

Did Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh contact the police on the 1st July 2003?

What was the date they first made contact with the police about their sighting and what did they tell police?

What did police notes say these two witnesses first said?

Read Dr Lean’s book. There is all the information you need there.

[Nicholas]

Read Dr Lean’s book. There is all the information you need there.

I’ve read it http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/08/copy-of-chapter-from-sandra-leans-1st-discredited-smoke-mirrors-book-promoting-the-innocence-fraud-phenomenon-of-actually-factually-guilty-killer-luke-mitchell/

Sandra Lean makes no mention of police notes

Rosemary Walsh’s evidence was damning

“He looks like he's up to no good'. It was just the way he was standing. It just didn't look right at all”

as was Lorraine Fleming’s

What did Lorraine Fleming first tell the police?

And how did Donald Findlay attempt to magic away the other 4 witnesses

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7232548.stm

[Nicholas]

Read Dr Lean’s book. There is all the information you need there.

Sandra Lean is an unreliable narrator and source

“Ms Walsh, 49, admitted that when she saw the paper she did nothing about it, despite a work colleague urging her to contact police.

Six days later, murder hunt detectives interviewed her at the Midlothian Council offices where she works, following a tip-off.

Whilst parts of Rosemary Walsh and Lorraine Flemings evidence appears to have been influenced by the photograph of killer Luke Mitchell wearing his replacement parka - there’s no reason to doubt everything else they said they saw -

And they weren’t the only witnesses who saw him standing there at the times they gave

Carole Heatlie, Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot also saw him

[Nicholas]

And how did Donald Findlay attempt to magic away the other 4 witnesses
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7232548.stm

‘But Mr Findlay said, despite their good intentions, the witnesses' evidence was confused and he questioned what value it had.
He told the court: "Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh were undoubtedly two ladies who came to give evidence, to do their best.
"But the reality was, in my submission, that by the end of this chapter of evidence, the evidence given by them was reduced to something akin to the chaotic.

It appears it was Donald Findlay who confused Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh and their evidence was ‘reduced to something akin to the chaotic’ following his lawyering tactics during the trial

[faithlilly]

I’ve read it http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/08/copy-of-chapter-from-sandra-leans-1st-discredited-smoke-mirrors-book-promoting-the-innocence-fraud-phenomenon-of-actually-factually-guilty-killer-luke-mitchell/

Sandra Lean makes no mention of police notes

Rosemary Walsh’s evidence was damning

“He looks like he's up to no good'. It was just the way he was standing. It just didn't look right at all”

as was Lorraine Fleming’s

What did Lorraine Fleming first tell the police?

And how did Donald Findlay attempt to magic away the other 4 witnesses

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7232548.stm

What did Lorraine Fleming first tell the police that was anymore credible and damning that the evidence she gave in court and the four witnesses you refer to are they those who saw Luke at the top of the Newbattle road, standing in the very spot he said he was and wearing the clothes the police took from him that night?

[Nicholas]

What did Lorraine Fleming first tell the police that was anymore credible and damning that the evidence she gave in court and the four witnesses you refer to are they those who saw Luke at the top of the Newbattle road, standing in the very spot he said he was and wearing the clothes the police took from him that night?

What exactly did Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot first tell police?

[faithlilly]

Sandra Lean is an unreliable narrator and source

“Ms Walsh, 49, admitted that when she saw the paper she did nothing about it, despite a work colleague urging her to contact police.

Six days later, murder hunt detectives interviewed her at the Midlothian Council offices where she works, following a tip-off.

Whilst parts of Rosemary Walsh and Lorraine Flemings evidence appears to have been influenced by the photograph of killer Luke Mitchell wearing his replacement parka - there’s no reason to doubt everything else they said they saw -

And they weren’t the only witnesses who saw him standing there at the times they gave

Carole Heatlie, Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot also saw him

So Walsh was so convinced that it was Luke she saw that she failed to even contact the police. That she had potentially explosive evidence that could help solve the murder of a 14 year old child and it was a work colleague who informed the police. Do you really believe that?

Caroline Heatlie et al all describe Luke being where he said he was and wearing the clothes he said he was wearing.

[faithlilly]

‘But Mr Findlay said, despite their good intentions, the witnesses' evidence was confused and he questioned what value it had.
He told the court: "Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh were undoubtedly two ladies who came to give evidence, to do their best.
"But the reality was, in my submission, that by the end of this chapter of evidence, the evidence given by them was reduced to something akin to the chaotic.

It appears it was Donald Findlay who confused Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh and their evidence was ‘reduced to something akin to the chaotic’ following his lawyering tactics during the trial

If the witnesses were truthful DF wouldn’t have been able to confuse them.

[faithlilly]

What exactly did Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot first tell police?

Read the book.

[Nicholas]

What exactly did Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot first tell police?

Two of these three - Dean Houston and Grant Elliot - sometimes cycled to school with killer Luke Mitchell. If killer Luke spoke with either of these two boys after his murder of Jodi Jones he could have tainted their evidence with regards what he was wearing when they saw him - similarly to what Donald Findlay did to Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh during the trial

[Nicholas]

If the witnesses were truthful DF wouldn’t have been able to confuse them.

Their evidence reads like they were both truthful and also ‘confused’

[faithlilly]

Two of these three - Dean Houston and Grant Elliot - sometimes cycled to school with killer Luke Mitchell. If killer Luke spoke with either of these two boys after his murder of Jodi Jones he could have rained their evidence with regards what he was wearing when they saw him - similarly to what Donald Findlay did to Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh during the trial

Don’t be ridiculous. Are you now second guessing witnesses? What about Holborn? He described Luke in the same way as Houston and Elliot. Did he ‘confuse’ him too?

[Nicholas]

So Walsh was so convinced that it was Luke she saw that she failed to even contact the police. That she had potentially explosive evidence that could help solve the murder of a 14 year old child and it was a work colleague who informed the police. Do you really believe that?

Jodi Jones murder has been solved

I don’t believe these two women had ‘explosive evidence that could help solve the murder of a 14 year old child’ no
 

[faithlilly]

Jodi Jones murder has been solved

I don’t believe these two women had ‘explosive evidence that could help solve the murder of a 14 year old child’ no

Why do you think that they didn’t go to the police after Luke appeared in the newspaper?