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Offline Kenmair

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #270 on: February 19, 2023, 10:12:43 AM »
If the courts were right then he would have to go right home after being seen by the witness around 5.30, giving him 15-20mins to get home from the spot he was seen, change clothes and explain to his mum then get to the end of the street to be seen by the boys. Is that likely? I don’t think so. Yeah maybe get home and get changed but explain to his mum as well and for her to allow him to leave all within 15/20 mins unlikely.

Only way I can see it is he sneaks in and gets changed, without his mum and brother seeing him. His mum may have been in the garden. Puts the bloody stuff and knife in a bag then heads out to sit at end of the street  Then when he gets home later and takes dog out he bins the bloody stuff in any bin on his street, they would all have been out on street to be emptied the following day. Heads home and gets a txt from [Name removed] mum.
Could be his mum and brother did not know anything.  I don’t think he would have time to shower also, maybe but going by the description of him at police station I don’t think he showered. There was no trace of blood found in his home and nothing found on him. I think if he did it he would need to have been wearing gloves for no dna to be under his nails but then that leans towards premeditation and Imo this was not premeditated

That sounds possible. Whether people think it's LM or not, would luring a girl into the woods while carrying a knife not be considered premeditated - plus the story of him telling a friend he would like to do something like this?

Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #271 on: February 19, 2023, 10:48:57 AM »
How much do you think these teenage girls got paid to tell their story? Could it not have been they were living in fear in case he was found not guilty and was released?

How do you know LM's friends were idiots? That's a bit presumptious unless they actually were. As to JuJ waking [Name removed] - was he just having a post-murder nap if we are to believe Det. Forbes latest theory? By the sound of it he was in a drugged state and not fit to walk about.

Luke was in custody from April 2004. Surely if those girls wanted him to stay that way they would have gone to the police? It doesn’t appear that they told their parents either or they would definitely have gone to the police.

I was theorising that Jodi may have thought that, as teenage girls do about boys.

Luke had also been smoking dope. Doesn’t seem to have stopped him searching.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #272 on: February 19, 2023, 10:51:28 AM »
Luke was in custody from April 2004. Surely if those girls wanted him to stay that way they would have gone to the police? It doesn’t appear that they told their parents either or they would definitely have gone to the police.

Who were the 2 under 16 year olds charlatan Sandra Lean referred to who gave witness statements ?
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The police took ‘more than’ 3000 statements - doubt Sandra Lean will have seen the majority of them
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Offline Parky41

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #273 on: February 19, 2023, 12:15:32 PM »
The Mitchells repeatedly handed over false accounts to the police - There is nothing placing LM home at 10:50pm and everything to show us that his mother knew nothing at this point of speaking with JuJ's, nor of any claim of making ones way to Easthouses. Within no time she is frantically trying to get a hold of him but makes no attempt to get him at the place he claimed to be heading to, which as most know was yet another false account.

Claiming to be on that path at 11pm, still not at the top by 11:20pm. LM just kept on given one set of false accounts into the next. We apply reality here yet again, within 20mins of telling Jodi's mother he had not seen her he claims to be upon that path, within 10mins of telling her, he instantly initiated an actual search to that path, nowhere else until upon it.

No mother or brother to go with the lad she claimed she was worried about on a "secluded path" which again ties in with LM not being home at 10:50pm.

The police contacted, and as has been shown, Jodi's mother was without doubt frantic, her own mother trying to calm her down over the phone, she is awaiting the arrival of the police with what should be in place, support around her at that awful time. She had her son and partner - No one with LM, which again shows that he was not leaving from home at 10:50pm, or that SM was certainly not home, nor a mother who was worried at all about her son going out at that time --- ALONE.

Rapid is the only way to describe what took place fully led by LM. Had not seen her, didn't turn up, I will go to the path to search, information related to AW and three people head to the path, whilst the police are expected at Jodi's house any minute. And again, the only reason that physical search is in place at all so rapidly, to that path is by LM's actions."

It is 11:18pm and the last contact to a mobile prior to the arrival of the police, prior to the four meeting is made, by this time LM by his claims has been on that path 18mins alone with his dog. The time is now 11:20pm, the police are in Jodi's house, the searchers see each others torchlight from the top of the path. "Is that you Luke?" and walk down to be in his company, he was only around 2/3 in what was now over 20mins, around 22mins by the time of being together. He had told Jodi's mother he had his dog, expecting something to be brought and he asks just that.

The time around 11:24pm and they set off together, LM is now in on that path for around 24mins, the police in attendance for around 5mins writing down those details. LM wades through several feet of undergrowth to the wall at the Gino break, he said he "just had a hunch, a gut instinct" that something was behind the wall, and indeed directly behind the wall is where he shone his torch.

We are now approaching 11:30pm, the police in attendance for around 10mins and the four are at the V break in the wall, LM enters the woods, and around 10-20secs he is shouting out he has found something. 4mins later, the police in attendance around 15mins, and a call comes through a body has been found - No need for any big organised search to be put in place, for any others to join in with. LM in a total time scale of less than one hour had placed her missing and found her ---------- Hidden some 43ft west of that break in the wall, in and around 6mins, in mere seconds of entering that dark woodland alone, with nothing other than special knowledge of knowing exactly where to go, rapidly.

He gave further false account, told the police is was his dog, told the police "they" had been around 60ft past, narrowed down to exactly 43ft. That only he with AW were at the V break in the wall, that JaJ's with SK had kept on walking down from that 60ft to 43ft point. - Those first accounts chalk and cheese, which showed clearly everything took place at the V, the dog a red herring, it had nothing at all to do with LM knowing exactly where to go - Realism is placing multiple ? around the multiple false accounts handed over by him, his mother and his brother.

The obtuse questions to deflect away from that stark reality - There had been no big organized search in place, there was no time, a series of events, of missing, path, wall, woods and bang. Before that missing persons report had been put in place, taken place rapidly whilst a family were seeking help from the police. LM was off like a shot in control before the police took control - Fact. None of this can be changed ever, one cannot alter time, they cannot alter the many factors that backed what took place to a hilt. And you sure as hell cannot erase out every single false account handed over by LM, ever. Then we add every piece of damning circumstantial evidence together, piecing that jigsaw together. Whilst children having tantrums continuously attempt to scatter the pieces because they do not like the picture ------



 

Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #274 on: February 19, 2023, 01:04:52 PM »
The Mitchells repeatedly handed over false accounts to the police -

Sandra Lean has recently suggested Shane Mitchell was on the phone ‘to a friend’ when his killer brother Luke asked for his torch

Did she include all of Shane Mitchell’s telephone logs in her 2nd book?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #275 on: February 19, 2023, 01:06:20 PM »
There is nothing placing LM home at 10:50pm and everything to show us that his mother knew nothing at this point of speaking with JuJ's, nor of any claim of making ones way to Easthouses. Within no time she is frantically trying to get a hold of him but makes no attempt to get him at the place he claimed to be heading to, which as most know was yet another false account.

Sandra Lean
I didn't mean the actual call was still on Luke's phone - I should have made that clearer. The record of the call going to voicemail is in the phone logs, Corinne said in her statement that she was trying to call Luke to find out what was going on
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9986.msg452488.html#msg452488

Corinne Mitchell’s evidence in court was ”I kept trying to phone him as he was late and in trouble”

And Corinne’s last text to her killer son Luke was “You will tell me right now what is wrong. I'm on my way up to find you”

Sandra Lean states here: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg452488.html#msg452488
I'm sorry, I seem to have caused a bit of a misunderstanding. Of the incoming voicemail call on Luke's phone that night, I saidI didn't mean the actual call was still on Luke's phone - I should have made that clearer. The record of the call going to voicemail is in the phone logs, Corinne said in her statement that she was trying to call Luke to find out what was going on, but got his voicemail - the timings given in her statement and both her and Luke's phone records all matched up. My point was that the police deliberately lied about Luke "checking his voicemail" when the log is clearly labelled "incoming."

All of the police assertions regarding the phone calls, texts, etc, were put to Luke in the Section 14 interrogation 6 weeks after the murder. By then, the police had the phone logs - they also recovered a text from Corinne to Luke saying, "Right, you tell me right now what's going on - I'm coming up to get you" (not recovered from Luke's phone)
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Corrine Mitchell
“You will tell me right now what is wrong. I'm on my way up to find you”

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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #276 on: February 19, 2023, 01:17:40 PM »
No mother or brother to go with the lad she claimed she was worried about on a "secluded path" which again ties in with LM not being home at 10:50pm.

Killer Luke Mitchell was “late and in trouble” and ignoring his mothers phone calls
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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #277 on: February 19, 2023, 01:21:18 PM »
The police contacted, and as has been shown, Jodi's mother was without doubt frantic, her own mother trying to calm her down over the phone, she is awaiting the arrival of the police with what should be in place, support around her at that awful time. She had her son and partner - No one with LM, which again shows that he was not leaving from home at 10:50pm, or that SM was certainly not home, nor a mother who was worried at all about her son going out at that time --- ALONE.
Liar Corinne Mitchell’s text message wasn’t sent until gone midnight

“You will tell me right now what is wrong. I'm on my way up to find you”

Where was Corinne Mitchell heading - the Abbey?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #278 on: February 19, 2023, 01:29:56 PM »

LM by his claims has been on that path 18mins alone with his dog.

The neighbour seeing killer Luke Mitchell pass his house at around 10pm but didn’t see Mia the dog

And the timings fit with the 10pm fire in the garden

The twisted psycho killer blamed his fire on his mother and brother

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/MITCHELLS+HELD+BACK+GARDEN+FIRE+NIGHT+JODI+DIED%3B+Death+trial+told+of...-a0125859091
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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #279 on: February 19, 2023, 01:32:51 PM »
No mother or brother to go with the lad she claimed she was worried about on a "secluded path"

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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #280 on: February 19, 2023, 01:36:33 PM »
He gave further false account, told the police is was his dog, told the police "they" had been around 60ft past, narrowed down to exactly 43ft. That only he with AW were at the V break in the wall, that JaJ's with SK had kept on walking down from that 60ft to 43ft point.

Toxic abuser Sandra Lean’s bare faced lies and smears are see through

Psycho killer Luke Mitchell spent the longest time behind that wall when he was with the ‘search trio’ - no doubt relishing in their distress, fear and horror

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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #281 on: February 19, 2023, 01:44:08 PM »
The obtuse questions to deflect away from that stark reality - There had been no big organized search in place, there was no time, a series of events, of missing, path, wall, woods and bang. Before that missing persons report had been put in place, taken place rapidly whilst a family were seeking help from the police. LM was off like a shot in control before the police took control - Fact.

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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #282 on: February 19, 2023, 01:45:42 PM »
None of this can be changed ever, one cannot alter time, they cannot alter the many factors that backed what took place to a hilt. And you sure as hell cannot erase out every single false account handed over by LM, ever.

No they cannot
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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #283 on: February 19, 2023, 02:00:40 PM »
Liar Corinne Mitchell’s text message wasn’t sent until gone midnight

“You will tell me right now what is wrong. I'm on my way up to find you”

Wonder what time Corinne Mitchell became aware of the fire in her garden?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #284 on: February 19, 2023, 02:12:49 PM »
The Mitchells repeatedly handed over false accounts to the police -

What date did Corinne Mitchell give her first statement?
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