More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[Lace]

If I was staging an abduction I certainly wouldn't have left my finger prints on the window.

[jassi]

Why not ? She had lived there for a weeks so finding her fingerprints in the apartment would be quite normal.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If I was staging an abduction I certainly wouldn't have left my finger prints on the window.

I certainly wouldn't have closed the window that I staged by opening before the police even got there!

[Wonderfulspam]

What other are the other inferences that could be drawn from the window being open?    It was left closed,  it was open when Kate checked on the children.

She might have forgotten close it, I mean, they did forgot to lock it, allegedly.

[G-Unit]

I certainly wouldn't have closed the window that I staged by opening before the police even got there!

I wouldn't have interfered with the only 'evidence of abduction' either. I would have shown it to my friends and to the police so they could see why I assumed my daughter had been abducted.

[Brietta]

Smith's evidence was corroberated by other family members. They all saw the man carrying the child and were all agreed about his description. If you are referring to Smith's later claim that the man was Gerry McCann, that was his uncorroborated opinion to which he's entitled. As it's uncorroborated, it may be nothing (like the dog alerts) or it may be intelligence (like the dog alerts).

The Smith family visit to Kelly's is not corroborated either by staff or by receipt.  There is no record of anyone witnessing the party making their way home and entering their apartment block and no record of the time at which they did get home.
The police didn't manage to get to one of the very few scenes of action covered by camera which might have been captured on CCTV until after the footage was deleted.

However I'm not sure what relevance this is to more recent events particularly when WE ALREADY KNOW that the three investigating police forces will not be at all interested in what went on in R. da Escola in 2007 as far as slurring the McCanns is concerned, unless it coincides with what their prime suspect and/or his mates were doing.

Isn't it about time you accepted that particular horse has bolted.

[sadie]

I am not able to judge the cost and weight of a set of curtains from a photograph, but they don't appear particularly cheap and flimsy to me. Therefore I'm not prepared to speculate about how they might behave. I'm also aware that there is disagreement about the weather that evening.

Look again at the curtain photos Gunit.  See how cheaply they fall and how the light penetrates.  Remember Matts statement where he could see light coming through them and the light was a mixture of sodium lighting colour yellow and the blue of the curtains IIRC.   Cheap fabric; they didn't need sturdy fabric, cos they had shutters for excluding light and prying eyes.  In actual fact they were merely a window dressing.  Very thin fabric.
Additionally we all know that nets are very flimsy


Do not try and change the weather Gunit.   That would be absolutely and totally dishonest.

The official weather reports have been posted on this forum several times.  I observed years ago that some have been deleted and I wondered why?

I wonder if there are any actual bona fide weather reports, (without alteration) still standing on here, but I ain't wasting the time searching anymore

[sadie]

She might have forgotten close it, I mean, they did forgot to lock it, allegedly.

Who is *they*?

I ain't looking it up for you, but I distinctly remember it being stated that neither Kate nor Gerry ever attempted to open the window.  They just left it closed all the time, day and night.

[G-Unit]

The Smith family visit to Kelly's is not corroborated either by staff or by receipt.  There is no record of anyone witnessing the party making their way home and entering their apartment block and no record of the time at which they did get home.
The police didn't manage to get to one of the very few scenes of action covered by camera which might have been captured on CCTV until after the footage was deleted.

However I'm not sure what relevance this is to more recent events particularly when WE ALREADY KNOW that the three investigating police forces will not be at all interested in what went on in R. da Escola in 2007 as far as slurring the McCanns is concerned, unless it coincides with what their prime suspect and/or his mates were doing.

Isn't it about time you accepted that particular horse has bolted.

As far as I'm concerned there has been one justifiable investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Any investigators following after will need to be aware of, and take into account the evidence gathered by that investigation.

I have seen two examples of what happens when investigators don't familiarise themselves with the available evidence. DCI Redwood failed to explain why his replacement for Tannerman seemed to be heading the wrong way, and Prosecutor Wolters seemed to think there was a mobile phone signal tower belonging to the Ocean Club.

[Brietta]

Why not ? She had lived there for a weeks so finding her fingerprints in the apartment would be quite normal.

Then why is it that sceptics make such a song and dance about Kate's fingerprints being on the glass - that is a rhetorical question.

I am far more interested in what is going on in the German investigation into Brueckner who for example left no fingerprints only a single pubic hair at the rape scene only a short distance from the McCann apartment.

Also it would be ON TOPIC.

[G-Unit]

Look again at the curtain photos Gunit.  See how cheaply they fall and how the light penetrates.  Remember Matts statement where he could see light coming through them and the light was a mixture of sodium lighting colour yellow and the blue of the curtains IIRC.   Cheap fabric; they didn't need sturdy fabric, cos they had shutters for excluding light and prying eyes.  In actual fact they were merely a window dressing.  Very thin fabric.
Additionally we all know that nets are very flimsy


Do not try and change the weather Gunit.   That would be absolutely and totally dishonest.

The official weather reports have been posted on this forum several times.  I observed years ago that some have been deleted and I wondered why?

I wonder if there are any actual bona fide weather reports, (without alteration) still standing on here, but I ain't wasting the time searching anymore

I have rejected your speculative explanation and repeating it butters no parsnips imo.

[Mr Gray]

As far as I'm concerned there has been one justifiable investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Any investigators following after will need to be aware of, and take into account the evidence gathered by that investigation.

I have seen two examples of what happens when investigators don't familiarise themselves with the available evidence. DCI Redwood failed to explain why his replacement for Tannerman seemed to be heading the wrong way, and Prosecutor Wolters seemed to think there was a mobile phone signal tower belonging to the Ocean Club.

As you are aware the first investigation thought the main evidence against the mccanns was the dog alerts so I doubt the present investigators will take much notice of that.
There was no real evidence against the parents... Confirmed by the srchiving despatch... PD Carmo... SY.. and the Germans.

Your problem imo is thst you THINK there is sufficient evidence to make the parents suspects.. The Portuguese, UK and German police dont agree with you.

Your fixation with your supposed evidence ptevents you looking at Wolters eith an open mind

[Brietta]

As far as I'm concerned there has been one justifiable investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Any investigators following after will need to be aware of, and take into account the evidence gathered by that investigation.

I have seen two examples of what happens when investigators don't familiarise themselves with the available evidence. DCI Redwood failed to explain why his replacement for Tannerman seemed to be heading the wrong way, and Prosecutor Wolters seemed to think there was a mobile phone signal tower belonging to the Ocean Club.

Why do sceptics expect the police to 'explain' evidence and keep the criminal fraternity up to speed with wat is going on in an investigation.
I am quite sure Scotland Yard know a great deal more about Dr Totman and his direction of travel than is in the public domain.

Are you disputing the evidence in the files from 2007 that Brueckner's phone activated a mast in Praia da Luz shortly before Madeleine disappeared.
Technicians and engineers know what they are doing and will keep everyone right and I'm not even going to go there regarding English not being Wolter's first language, although he is extremely fluent.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I wouldn't have interfered with the only 'evidence of abduction' either. I would have shown it to my friends and to the police so they could see why I assumed my daughter had been abducted.

Which rather supports the theory that the abduction wasn't staged IMO.

[Lace]

Why not ? She had lived there for a weeks so finding her fingerprints in the apartment would be quite normal.

Tell Amaral that then as he used the fact that the window had Kates fingerprints on it to spread his staged abduction theory.