Russia - Ukraine war

[Wonderfulspam]

Getting prepared ?

Missiles loaded onto nuclear sub HMS Audacious after Moscow's threat to Britain

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1602546/ukraine-news-missiles-loaded-hms-audacious-moscow-threat

Did you watch that documentary Barrier.
Seriously, if you do nothing else this afternoon you need to see it to understand.
We are being lied to.

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Biden asks Congress for $33bn more aid for Ukraine as conflict escalates

https://www.ft.com/content/d1c1ac2c-7ecd-4cb4-a33b-58fd06de0b3d


America are only 30 odd trillion dollars in debt, just chuck another 33 billion on the end, what does it matter eh?

I wonder how they'll ever pay it all back?


Real Time World Debt Clock

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

[Wonderfulspam]

I caught sight of the forum twitter page today & was a bit horrified to see the suggestion we should be sticking it to Putin already.
Has anyone seen them hypersonic Missiles? Missile defence systems are powerless to stop them.
I know I fool around & talk nonsense but christ, Putin has proven he doesn't bluff.
There needs to be descalation but almost everywhere I read people are suggesting we should be ramping things up.
It's insane, more insane than me.
Where are the sensible diplomats of the world?
I've barely slept since the conflict started. Watch the videos on nuclear testing, it scares the crap out of me.
The leader of the free world has obvious dementia & he's the guy we rely on to protect us all.
I think I might need to buy some cyanide capsules just in case, now that would please the forum.

[Carana]

Wow, Spammy. For once you sound sincere. I must be dreaming ;)

I'm not sure what "sticking it to him" actually means.

Attempts to appease him by basicly turning a blind eye appear to have simply emboldened him.

I'm looking for an enlightening interview with Garry Kasparov, which offers a lot of context....

Found it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC_ywMII-aI

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Wow, Spammy. For once you sound sincere. I must be dreaming ;)

I'm not sure what "sticking it to him" actually means.

Attempts to appease him by basicly turning a blind eye appear to have simply emboldened him.

I find this interview with Garry Kasparov offers a lot of context:

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1518284919155437574

What attempts have their been to appease him?

The last interview I watched with Kasparov he said 'Ukraine is getting stronger' the guys a bit delusional, because the military map says the total opposite.

[Carana]

Biden asks Congress for $33bn more aid for Ukraine as conflict escalates

https://www.ft.com/content/d1c1ac2c-7ecd-4cb4-a33b-58fd06de0b3d


America are only 30 odd trillion dollars in debt, just chuck another 33 billion on the end, what does it matter eh?

I wonder how they'll ever pay it all back?


Real Time World Debt Clock

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

How much more would it cost if this "special military operation" expands further into the former Soviet bloc countries?

[Carana]

What attempts have their been to appease him?

The last interview I watched with Kasparov he said 'Ukraine is getting stronger' the guys a bit delusional, because the military map says the total opposite.

Have you watched the interview I posted?

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Have you watched the interview I posted?

Yes I did, he only sees a military solution, rather than making the sensible suggestion of laying down arms & splitting Ukraine between east & west.

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How much more would it cost if this "special military operation" expands further into the former Soviet bloc countries?

Putin knows he can't occupy all of Europe, he's bad but not completely insane.

His goal is to de-nazify Ukraine, destroy it's military, he doesn't want a neo nazi NATO state on his doorstep, look up Stepan Bandera, Zelenskey's celebrated war criminal.

The western media will have us believe that Ukraine is some peaceful beacon of liberal democracy, rather than the corrupt, bankrupt hell hole it really is.

Like I said, I see people flying the Ukrainian flag & cringe at their stupidity, they're supporting a state that throws opposition politicians in prison & has statues of Nazi sympathisers.

[Carana]

Another interesting interview with Alexsandr Dugin (dubbed Putin's Rasputin).

https://youtu.be/Du7fOoW_euE

[Carana]

Putin knows he can't occupy all of Europe, he's bad but not completely insane.

His goal is to de-nazify Ukraine, destroy it's military, he doesn't want a neo nazi NATO state on his doorstep, look up Stepan Bandera, Zelenskey's celebrated war criminal.

The western media will have us believe that Ukraine is some peaceful beacon of liberal democracy, rather than the corrupt, bankrupt hell hole it really is.

Like I said, I see people flying the Ukrainian flag & cringe at their stupidity, they're supporting a state that throws opposition politicians in prison & has statues of Nazi sympathisers.

I haven't seen what could indicate that he wanted to take over the whole of Europe (so far), but to restore the former glory of the Soviet bloc / Tsarist Russian Empire.

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I haven't seen what could indicate that he wanted to take over the whole of Europe (so far), but to restore the former glory of the Soviet bloc / Tsarist Russian Empire.

And how would he manage that?

He'd need millions of troops on the ground to be able to occupy & hold surrounding countries, logistically impossible.

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The Guardian have caught up with what I said yesterday.

Inflammatory rhetoric from Liz Truss, talking of pushing Russia out of the whole of Ukraine.

Liz Truss risks recklessly inflaming Ukraine’s war to serve her own ambition

The foreign secretary’s belligerent comments on Russia reduce Ukraine to a pawn in the Conservatives’ power struggle

he foreign secretary, Liz Truss, is playing with fire. On Wednesday night she described Russia’s Vladimir Putin as a “rogue operator” lacking rationality, and with “no interest in international norms”. As a result, she said: “We will keep going further and faster to push Russia out of the whole of Ukraine.” She is clearly revelling in her imagined proxy war on the Russian bear and no one in Whitehall appears able to restrain her.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/28/liz-truss-ukraine-war-russia-conservative-power

[Carana]

And how would he manage that?

He'd need millions of troops on the ground to be able to occupy & hold surrounding countries, logistically impossible.

As I said I haven't found anything about wanting to expand militarily into the traditionally "western" world. However, have you listened to the Dugin interview?

From what I can gather, creating chaos and destabilizing the western world would suffice to gain ground.

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As I said I haven't found anything about wanting to expand militarily into the traditionally "western" world. However, have you listened to the Dugin interview?

Not yet, & I've got to go out in a bit but will watch when I get back.

If you've got an hour watch Oliver Stone's Ukraine On Fire....it paints a rather different picture to the reasons for the conflict than our media would have us believe, there are disturbing scenes, but that's reality for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcmNGvaDUs