Madeleine McCann's parents lose libel case with the European Court of Human Rights

[Wonderfulspam]

There wouldn't be much to read, to be fair, he's already shown his full deck.

Saying that I don't think I ever read all of Amaral's book either, & if the McCanns had never pursued him through the courts, I hadn't gone into that particular cafe that day & read about the trial, then stumbled across Anne's trial reports, I might never even have found this place.
So next time my wummery offends anybody, just remember, you can thank the McCanns that I ever even found this wonderful platform.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Saying that I don't think I ever read all of Amaral's book either, & if the McCanns had never pursued him through the courts, I hadn't gone into that particular cafe that day & read about the trial, then stumbled across Anne's trial reports, I might never even have found this place.
So next time my wummery offends anybody, just remember, you can thank the McCanns that I ever even found this wonderful platform.

I read it years ago on a flight from the Algarve to Luton. I was too tight to pay for allocated seating so I was seated away from my family and downloaded to my phone before the plane took off. After I read it I thought, meh, whats all the fuss about and then promptly forgot about it for many years. I wouldn't read it again.

[Angelo222]

The gate was interesting.
There was a rotten patch that I treated with Rustins wood hardener, before applying a brace around the patch & layering wood filler in.
I then made sure to put hardener around the base of the gate to prevent any further rot from taking hold, then applied 3 separate coats of Dulux 10 year weathershield.
It looks great & will be fit to withstand the elements for years to come.

I'm glad it worked out for you. Now, about that wumming... 

[Vertigo Swirl]

I read it years ago on a flight from the Algarve to Luton. I was too tight to pay for allocated seating so I was seated away from my family and downloaded to my phone before the plane took off. After I read it I thought, meh, whats all the fuss about and then promptly forgot about it for many years. I wouldn't read it again.

yes, it is a very poor read, buy easy to finish in a short plane journey.  Still, if it had been accusing me of crimes against my own child that I had not committed I too would have made a bloody great fuss.

[Wonderfulspam]

I read it years ago on a flight from the Algarve to Luton. I was too tight to pay for allocated seating so I was seated away from my family and downloaded to my phone before the plane took off. After I read it I thought, meh, whats all the fuss about and then promptly forgot about it for many years. I wouldn't read it again.

I've never read Kate's book either, can't quite bring myself to do it.
There's something about knowing/believing that Maddie simply wasn't abducted, based on my reasonable assessment of the available evidence, that makes her efforts to protest her innocence somewhat repulsive I find.

[Wonderfulspam]

yes, it is a very poor read, buy easy to finish in a short plane journey.  Still, if it had been accusing me of crimes against my own child that I had not committed I too would have made a bloody great fuss.

You'd probably make a fuss if you were guilty also.

[Wonderfulspam]

I'm glad it worked out for you. Now, about that wumming... 

Ok sorry, I was trying not to join in with the outright goading & gloating by posting extraneous nonsense instead.

[sadie]

The black triangle is up again;

This denotes  *insecure website* or a lying post perchance.

I shall not be contributing atm because of this.

[barrier]

Did any one pick this up from the judgement. One of the facts.

10. Biological traces and blood were detected by British police dogs inside the holiday apartment and in the boot of the car which the applicants had hired a few days after their daughter's disappearance (see paragraph 40 below). As a result, on 7 September 2007, the applicants were charged (constituted arguidos). They were suspected of having hidden their daughter's body after her death, possibly as a result of a domestic accident, in the apartment and of having faked an abduction. The applicants' indictment received unprecedented national and international media coverage.

Paragraph 40;

40. As to the facts, referring to the evidence submitted by the parties, the Lisbon Court found the following to be established:
" (...)
6. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside apartment 5-A of the Ocean Club.
7. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside the vehicle rented by the applicants (...) after Madeleine disappeared.

[Brietta]

Did any one pick this up from the judgement. One of the facts.

10. Biological traces and blood were detected by British police dogs inside the holiday apartment and in the boot of the car which the applicants had hired a few days after their daughter's disappearance (see paragraph 40 below). As a result, on 7 September 2007, the applicants were charged (constituted arguidos). They were suspected of having hidden their daughter's body after her death, possibly as a result of a domestic accident, in the apartment and of having faked an abduction. The applicants' indictment received unprecedented national and international media coverage.

Paragraph 40;

40. As to the facts, referring to the evidence submitted by the parties, the Lisbon Court found the following to be established:
" (...)
6. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside apartment 5-A of the Ocean Club.
7. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside the vehicle rented by the applicants (...) after Madeleine disappeared.

I think a lot of people have picked it up and were probably equally as astounded to see it there as I was; considering it is the prevailing myth among sceptics and nothing at all to do with the bona fide forensic results which cleared the McCanns.

[barrier]

I think a lot of people have picked it up and were probably equally as astounded to see it there as I was; considering it is the prevailing myth among sceptics and nothing at all to do with the bona fide forensic results which cleared the McCanns.

It clearly isn't a myth ,it's in the judgement handed down unanimously by no less than 7 judges.

[kizzy]

I think a lot of people have picked it up and were probably equally as astounded to see it there as I was; considering it is the prevailing myth among sceptics and nothing at all to do with the bona fide forensic results which cleared the McCanns.

How did it clear the mccs.....the forensic was inconclusive.

Inconclusive results indicate that DNA testing did not produce information that would allow an individual to be either included or excluded as the source of the biological evidence.

I wouldn't call that cleared.

[G-Unit]

I think a lot of people have picked it up and were probably equally as astounded to see it there as I was; considering it is the prevailing myth among sceptics and nothing at all to do with the bona fide forensic results which cleared the McCanns.

All the judges (Portuguese and ECHR) needed to decide was whether GA based his theory on facts which were recorded in the investigation files. They were.

[The General]

Did any one pick this up from the judgement. One of the facts.

10. Biological traces and blood were detected by British police dogs inside the holiday apartment and in the boot of the car which the applicants had hired a few days after their daughter's disappearance (see paragraph 40 below). As a result, on 7 September 2007, the applicants were charged (constituted arguidos). They were suspected of having hidden their daughter's body after her death, possibly as a result of a domestic accident, in the apartment and of having faked an abduction. The applicants' indictment received unprecedented national and international media coverage.

Paragraph 40;

40. As to the facts, referring to the evidence submitted by the parties, the Lisbon Court found the following to be established:
" (...)
6. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside apartment 5-A of the Ocean Club.
7. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside the vehicle rented by the applicants (...) after Madeleine disappeared.

Those indisputable, court verified facts still haven't been adequately explained.
You can see why the PJ moved to place the pair as suspects.

[The General]

All the judges (Portuguese and ECHR) needed to decide was whether GA based his theory on facts which were recorded in the investigation files. They were.

They wernt further. They clearly identified when the book was in development, thus ruled, as you say, it was as a result of the investigation.
Rulings rarely get more unequivocal and it's of no little amusement to me that some are attempting a transpicuous version of double speak to explain what amounts to an absolute drubbing.