The New Yorker magazine now claiming Bamber had an alibi?

[John]

This week, audio footage was released by the New Yorker magazine, which seemed to exonerate Bamber, who has been in prison for 40 years. Could this lead to his release?

In the millions of pages disclosed to Jeremy Bamber over the decades, in his bid to prove his innocence of one of the 20th century’s most notorious crimes, PC Nick Milbank is barely mentioned. But this week, new evidence emerged that the late police officer held an essential clue to what happened on the night of the massacre at Whitehouse Farm on 7 August 1985.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/02/the-jeremy-bamber-twist-does-britains-most-notorious-murderer-finally-have-an-alibi

[Eleanor]

I never have been sure of his guilt.  But what is likely to happen now?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don’t see how a call made at 6.09am in which no one actually speaks exonerates JB, can someone please explain?

[Eleanor]

I don’t see how a call made at 6.09am in which no one actually speaks exonerates JB, can someone please explain?

Someone was still alive in that house.  Bamber was outside in police custody.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Someone was still alive in that house.  Bamber was outside in police custody.

He wasn’t in custody at that point but he was with them outside the house.  However, the call (if one were actually made) could have been made by a victim who momentarily regained consciousness before collapsing again and dying.  No gunshot was heard while police were outside the house so all shots had already been fired by the time they arrived.  I don’t see how this alleged phone call proves Bamber is innocent.  I thought it all hinged on the alleged aga burns anyway?  Where’s Blogs?

[Joe Blogs]

He wasn’t in custody at that point but he was with them outside the house.  However, the call (if one were actually made) could have been made by a victim who momentarily regained consciousness before collapsing again and dying.  No gunshot was heard while police were outside the house so all shots had already been fired by the time they arrived.  I don’t see how this alleged phone call proves Bamber is innocent.  I thought it all hinged on the alleged aga burns anyway?  Where’s Blogs?

Yes, I certainly believe the Aga evidence is important for Bamber if accepted, Vertigo!
As far as the phone call at 6.09 is concerned, only Sheila could have made it before shooting herself, Nevill and June had too many head shots to try calling anyone. Besides, June was found upstairs where there was no phone.
So no, if a call was made, the only person that could have made it was Sheila before shooting herself, Vertigo!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes, I certainly believe the Aga evidence is important for Bamber if accepted, Vertigo!
As far as the phone call at 6.09 is concerned, only Sheila could have made it before shooting herself, Nevill and June had too many head shots to try calling anyone. Besides, June was found upstairs where there was no phone.
So no, if a call was made, the only person that could have made it was Sheila before shooting herself, Vertigo!

If it was Sheila 1)why make the call in the first place? 2) why make the call but then say nothing discernable 3) why did noone hear the final gunshot?

[Joe Blogs]

If it was Sheila 1)why make the call in the first place? 2) why make the call but then say nothing discernable 3) why did noone hear the final gunshot?

I cant answer any of you're three points, Vertigo!
But the fact remains, Sheila and only Sheila could have made a phone call from inside WHF at 6.09!

[Vertigo Swirl]

I cant answer any of you're three points, Vertigo!
But the fact remains, Sheila and only Sheila could have made a phone call from inside WHF at 6.09!

None of it makes sense.  The only thing that does make sense is that 40 years after the event Milbank got his facts wrong.  If he’d known all those years that Bamber could not have committed the crime because of the phone call why on earth didn’t he speak up sooner? 

[Joe Blogs]

None of it makes sense.  The only thing that does make sense is that 40 years after the event Milbank got his facts wrong.  If he’d known all those years that Bamber could not have committed the crime because of the phone call why on earth didn’t he speak up sooner?

Thats what we all want to know, Vertigo!
Hopefully Heidi Blake got to the bottom of things in her interview, lets see what she comes up with!

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m afraid I find Milbank’s account hard to make sense of.  Someone within the house calls 999, then says nothing distinctive but moves away from the phone to apparently move the furniture, and maybe switch on the radio.  No sound of gunshot is heard either over the phone or by the numerous individuals outside the house.  Moreover if this was Sheila, she would have been dead only an hour or so before the police discovered her body and it would probably still have been warm, was this observed by anybody at the crime scene?  Is there an actual log for this 6.09am call?  If not, why not?  So many questions, and no logical answers.

[Joe Blogs]

I’m afraid I find Milward’s account hard to make sense of.  Someone within the house calls 999, then says nothing distinctive but moves away from the phone to apparently move the furniture, and maybe switch on the radio.  No sound of gunshot is heard either over the phone or by the numerous individuals outside the house.  Moreover if this was Sheila, she would have been dead only an hour or so before the police discovered her body and it would probably still have been warm, was this observed by anybody at the crime scene?  Is there an actual log for this 6.09am call?  If not, why not?  So many questions, and no logical answers.

Yes, there are many points that need clarifying regarding the Milbank call.
Why do you think a gunshot would be heard over the phone, Vertigo?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes, there are many points that need clarifying regarding the Milbank call.
Why do you think a gunshot would be heard over the phone, Vertigo?

Why not?  The phone was supposedly left off the hook wasn’t it?

Think about it.  This alleged 6.09am phonecall would have been a massive piece of evidence.  Why does it not feature as an aspect of the early investigation before JB was even in the frame for the murders?  How did Milbank manage not to mention this to any of his superiors when they were investigating the apparent murder / suicide committed by Sheila Bamber?  You might have thought he’d mention the fact that he’d taken a call from her to someone at some point, but no, it takes 17 years before this apparently enormous clue is revealed. 

[Eleanor]

The whole investigation was such a mess that I had trouble sorting out what was going on.  And of course, The Police were far too keen on stitching people up in those days.

This is definitely cause to reopen the Investigation,  In My Opinion.

[jassi]

Yes, I certainly believe the Aga evidence is important for Bamber if accepted, Vertigo!
As far as the phone call at 6.09 is concerned, only Sheila could have made it before shooting herself, Nevill and June had too many head shots to try calling anyone. Besides, June was found upstairs where there was no phone.
So no, if a call was made, the only person that could have made it was Sheila before shooting herself, Vertigo!

Could she have shot herself prior to this but not died immediately ?