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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #390 on: September 19, 2016, 06:17:11 AM »
Operationally I would think it easier to have two items to track rather than one.  Since they followed similar paths one could presume they had similar scents on them. But since they did not track to Madeleine there would be no inferences we could make from this.
What concerned me was that the blanket reappeared in the video of the dog searches of the Villa the McCanns hired at the end of June (??) So when was it returned was  question I wanted answered.

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- The villa is on Rua das Flores, 27, rented at the beginning of the summer with money donated to the Find Madeleine Fund.
Vista Mar Villa: The McCanns (02 July - 09 September 2007)
Videos can be found http://www.mccannfiles.com/id167.html
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #391 on: September 19, 2016, 06:21:04 AM »
Operationally I would think it easier to have two items to track rather than one.  Since they followed similar paths one could presume they had similar scents on them. But since they did not track to Madeleine there would be no inferences we could make from this.
What concerned me was that the blanket reappeared in the video of the dog searches of the Villa the McCanns hired at the end of July (??) So when was it returned was  question I wanted answered.

Where can one see the Blanket at the Villa?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #392 on: September 19, 2016, 06:33:28 AM »
Where can one see the Blanket at the Villa?
Videos can be found http://www.mccannfiles.com/id167.html  go to the section of Eddie doing the search at the villa and it is in the section after playing with Cuddle cat in the loungue.  I haven't got the patience to go through it just at the moment.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #393 on: September 19, 2016, 06:41:52 AM »
Videos can be found http://www.mccannfiles.com/id167.html  go to the section of Eddie doing the search at the villa and it is in the section after playing with Cuddle cat in the loungue.  I haven't got the patience to go through it just at the moment.

No, nor have I.  Let us know when you have.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #394 on: September 19, 2016, 01:00:29 PM »
No, nor have I.  Let us know when you have.
The forum should store these videos on the site before they all go missing. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #395 on: September 19, 2016, 02:59:32 PM »
The blanket was handed out at 02.30am on 4th May, as Kate describes in her book and the dog handler confirms;

They were given a pink/orange blanket that the child had been covered with in her bed.

They began searching with the dogs from the main entrance to the apartment, having given the blanket to his dog Numi to smell and begin to search.
Date: 2007-05-16

Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacão

The handler doesn't say if he kept the blanket; he may have handed it back after his dog sniffed it.

The towel was given to the tracker dog handler who searched at around 11.30pm on 4th May;

His role was to use the dogs' skills by allowing them to sniff a towel which had supposedly been used by the minor in question.
http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO_ESTEVES.htm

It was used again on 8th;

the first sniffer dog, after having smelled the towel used in the previous operation, began searching,
http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO_ESTEVES.htm

They gave the dogs a Turkish bath towel which was supposedly used by the child in question
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANTONIO_SILVA.htm

and on 8th;

 The initial diligence carried out with first sniffer dog, after having sniffed the towel used in the previous operation,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANTONIO_SILVA.htm


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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #396 on: September 19, 2016, 08:00:03 PM »
That makes sense except for this bit
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They gave the dogs a Turkish bath towel which was supposedly used by the child in question
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANTONIO_SILVA.htm

How was this established? "which was supposedly used"  even the PJ had their degree of uncertainty by the sound of things.

Did they use the pink blanket to get the sniffer dogs to find the towel?  No parents of Madeleine involved.
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Offline sadie

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #397 on: September 19, 2016, 10:36:50 PM »
That makes sense except for this bit
How was this established? "which was supposedly used"  even the PJ had their degree of uncertainty by the sound of things.

Did they use the pink blanket to get the sniffer dogs to find the towel?  No parents of Madeleine involved.
Their head honcho had his conviction from the word 'GO' and little doubt he passed it on to his subordinates.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #398 on: September 20, 2016, 12:15:29 AM »
I did see it on a shortened version but there is a more convincing version or at least there was. 3:20 -3:40 minutes in on the shortened video
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #399 on: September 20, 2016, 12:38:56 AM »
I did see it on a shortened version but there is a more convincing version or at least there was. 3:20 -3:40 minutes in on the shortened video

So, No Cite then?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #400 on: September 20, 2016, 01:05:03 AM »
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #401 on: September 20, 2016, 01:17:16 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qG21K6XJRg 3:15 - 3:30   Edited version.
Something pink, to which the dog did not alert?
What's up, old man?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #402 on: September 20, 2016, 01:24:21 AM »
Something pink, to which the dog did not alert?
This is in August so it would have been well washed by then (in the extended video you get a better look at it iirc).
Is that Madeleine's cuddle blanket?

Eddie pulls it out of the wardrobe but doesn't alert to it.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #403 on: September 20, 2016, 01:51:57 AM »
This is in August so it would have been well washed by then (in the extended video you get a better look at it iirc).
Is that Madeleine's cuddle blanket?

Eddie pulls it out of the wardrobe but doesn't alert to it.
Am I supposed to get interested or exited about something pink to which to dog does not alert???
What's up, old man?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The tracker dogs
« Reply #404 on: September 20, 2016, 02:41:04 AM »
Am I supposed to get interested or exited about something pink to which to dog does not alert???
As I said the better view of it was edited out. But "yes" if it was the MBM blanket and no cadaver odour on it that is a plus I'd say.  A plus if you want to be able to find MBM alive.
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