The tracker dogs

[C.Edwards]

Certainly he knew which car was used by the suspects.  Why do you think he stood there calling Eddie back when it wasn't that interested whereas he called him away from other vehicles.  Poor show without a doubt.

That doesn't prove anything. It's a supposition you're making.  How do you know that the dog "wasn't that interested"? Are you an expert on canine body language?  Oh hang on, I forgot - you're the dog expert who could do better than Grime, aren't you?  'Nuff said.

[Angelo222]

Certainly he knew which car was used by the suspects.  Why do you think he stood there calling Eddie back when it wasn't that interested whereas he called him away from other vehicles.  Poor show without a doubt.

That doesn't prove anything. It's a supposition you're making.  How do you know that the dog "wasn't that interested"? Are you an expert on canine body language?  Oh hang on, I forgot - you're the dog expert who could do better than Grime, aren't you?  'Nuff said.

Doesn't prove anything??  Everyone who has viewed the videos has seen it with their own eyes except you.  So glad you remembered that I am very well acquainted with dogs and training them to do all sorts. Grime is a one trick pony, he had nothing to offer the McCann case.

[Eleanor]

The Interesting thing about the car is  that someone actually noticed half way through that the posters were there, and not a particularly good idea.  This alone points to gross incompetence on someone's part, but a bit too late by then.
But I can't help wondering if they considered doing a rerun.

[Angelo222]

The Interesting thing about the car is  that someone actually noticed half way through that the posters were there, and not a particularly good idea.  This alone points to gross incompetence on someone's part, but a bit too late by then.
But I can't help wondering if they considered doing a rerun.

They tampered with the evidence Eleanor.  How many other objects did they tamper with?  Did you know that the clothing had been laid out originally on a dirty floor and had to be removed for a second attempt?  You couldn't make it up if you tried. 

Eddie was also used to search down town and on the beach and found nada.

[Eleanor]

The Interesting thing about the car is  that someone actually noticed half way through that the posters were there, and not a particularly good idea.  This alone points to gross incompetence on someone's part, but a bit too late by then.
But I can't help wondering if they considered doing a rerun.

They tampered with the evidence Eleanor.  How many other objects did they tamper with?  Did you know that the clothing had been laid out originally on a dirty floor and had to be removed for a second attempt?  You couldn't make it up if you tried. 

Eddie was also used to search down town and on the beach and found nada.

And the car was driven to the garage by an officer of The PJ.  Not to forget that the clothing was bundled all together in a cardboard box with nary a plastic bag in sight.

It's these sorts of mistakes that bugged the entire investigation, leaving most of us reeling from shock at  the horrific incompetence, let alone, as you say, Tampering with Evidence.

What on earth did Amaral think he was doing? No wonder he didn't understand DNA.

Oh, and Martin Grime needs a talking to as well.

[DCI]

The Interesting thing about the car is  that someone actually noticed half way through that the posters were there, and not a particularly good idea.  This alone points to gross incompetence on someone's part, but a bit too late by then.
But I can't help wondering if they considered doing a rerun.

They tampered with the evidence Eleanor.  How many other objects did they tamper with?  Did you know that the clothing had been laid out originally on a dirty floor and had to be removed for a second attempt?  You couldn't make it up if you tried. 

Eddie was also used to search down town and on the beach and found nada.

Thank you, Angelo. Just what I've been waiting for.
 
To avoid contamination of evidence that will be gathered at the McCanns', Mark Harrison has insisted on the availability of decontaminated premises exclusively set aside for this purpose. Julio Barroso, mayor of Lagos, agrees to lend us the garage of a new, unoccupied building in the centre of Lagos. The place is cleaned from top to bottom.


The soft toy and all the clothes from the house are placed into boxes specially made to preserve evidence. These objects are then conveyed to the decontaminated premises. They are placed on the ground, a good distance apart for the dogs to examine.

At 8pm, Tavares de Almeida calls me to let me know that Mark Harrison requires another place because this one is not sufficiently clean.

- How do I find a place at this kind of time?

- Sort it out!

Julio Barroso offers us the new sports hall in Lagos which, finally, meets the required standards. The objects are once again laid out on the ground and the dogs can start. Eddie alerts us to a strong cadaver odour on some of Kate's clothes, but the CSI dog doesn't detect the slightest trace of blood.

[Eleanor]

In so far as I understood things, the dogs were sent to PdL to search the beach and surrounding areas to see if they could find Madeleine's body.  Which they might have done if it was there.
Deploying them in the appartment and other places of residence was the idea of The PJ, ie. Amaral, three months after the event, and after multiple reoccupations.  The dogs were never going to find anything usable in a Court of Law.  So therefor it was a complete waste of time and money.  Except for Martin Grime, of course.  Who then used the videos to convince The Jersey Team.  For which Mr. Grime pocketed £93,000.

[C.Edwards]

In so far as I understood things, the dogs were sent to PdL to search the beach and surrounding areas to see if they could find Madeleine's body.  Which they might have done if it was there.
Deploying them in the appartment and other places of residence was the idea of The PJ, ie. Amaral, three months after the event, and after multiple reoccupations.  The dogs were never going to find anything usable in a Court of Law.  So therefor it was a complete waste of time and money.  Except for Martin Grime, of course.  Who then used the videos to convince The Jersey Team.  For which Mr. Grime pocketed £93,000.

Just remind me what Grime's dogs went on to do in America again...?

[Eleanor]

In so far as I understood things, the dogs were sent to PdL to search the beach and surrounding areas to see if they could find Madeleine's body.  Which they might have done if it was there.
Deploying them in the appartment and other places of residence was the idea of The PJ, ie. Amaral, three months after the event, and after multiple reoccupations.  The dogs were never going to find anything usable in a Court of Law.  So therefor it was a complete waste of time and money.  Except for Martin Grime, of course.  Who then used the videos to convince The Jersey Team.  For which Mr. Grime pocketed £93,000.

Just remind me what Grime's dogs went on to do in America again...?

Which dogs are we talking about?  And have they actually found any Corpses?

[C.Edwards]

In so far as I understood things, the dogs were sent to PdL to search the beach and surrounding areas to see if they could find Madeleine's body.  Which they might have done if it was there.
Deploying them in the appartment and other places of residence was the idea of The PJ, ie. Amaral, three months after the event, and after multiple reoccupations.  The dogs were never going to find anything usable in a Court of Law.  So therefor it was a complete waste of time and money.  Except for Martin Grime, of course.  Who then used the videos to convince The Jersey Team.  For which Mr. Grime pocketed £93,000.

Just remind me what Grime's dogs went on to do in America again...?

Which dogs are we talking about?  And have they actually found any Corpses?

Yay!  Another one I can ignore from now. Seriously, I cannot believe you've said that.

[Eleanor]

In so far as I understood things, the dogs were sent to PdL to search the beach and surrounding areas to see if they could find Madeleine's body.  Which they might have done if it was there.
Deploying them in the appartment and other places of residence was the idea of The PJ, ie. Amaral, three months after the event, and after multiple reoccupations.  The dogs were never going to find anything usable in a Court of Law.  So therefor it was a complete waste of time and money.  Except for Martin Grime, of course.  Who then used the videos to convince The Jersey Team.  For which Mr. Grime pocketed £93,000.

Just remind me what Grime's dogs went on to do in America again...?

Which dogs are we talking about?  And have they actually found any Corpses?

Yay!  Another one I can ignore from now. Seriously, I cannot believe you've said that.

Which dogs are you talking about and have they found any Cprpses?  These are reasonable questions.  Why don't you want to answer?

[Angelo222]

If I remember correctly there were about 9 GNR searchers with up to 5 sniffer dogs going around Praia Da LuZ just days after Madeleine disappeared and in ever decreasing circles.   

Tell a lie.  Two dogs did find something, a lamp standard just opposite Ocean Club reception where they both paused for a moment.

It has to be said, the dogs were all completely ineffective and brought no useful information to the case.

[Carana]

The Interesting thing about the car is  that someone actually noticed half way through that the posters were there, and not a particularly good idea.  This alone points to gross incompetence on someone's part, but a bit too late by then.
But I can't help wondering if they considered doing a rerun.

They tampered with the evidence Eleanor.  How many other objects did they tamper with?  Did you know that the clothing had been laid out originally on a dirty floor and had to be removed for a second attempt?  You couldn't make it up if you tried. 

Eddie was also used to search down town and on the beach and found nada.

Thank you, Angelo. Just what I've been waiting for.
 
To avoid contamination of evidence that will be gathered at the McCanns', Mark Harrison has insisted on the availability of decontaminated premises exclusively set aside for this purpose. Julio Barroso, mayor of Lagos, agrees to lend us the garage of a new, unoccupied building in the centre of Lagos. The place is cleaned from top to bottom.


The soft toy and all the clothes from the house are placed into boxes specially made to preserve evidence. These objects are then conveyed to the decontaminated premises. They are placed on the ground, a good distance apart for the dogs to examine.

At 8pm, Tavares de Almeida calls me to let me know that Mark Harrison requires another place because this one is not sufficiently clean.

- How do I find a place at this kind of time?

- Sort it out!

Julio Barroso offers us the new sports hall in Lagos which, finally, meets the required standards. The objects are once again laid out on the ground and the dogs can start. Eddie alerts us to a strong cadaver odour on some of Kate's clothes, but the CSI dog doesn't detect the slightest trace of blood.

I'm not sure about this. Could a PT speaker please check the original PT version?

There could be a misinterpretation that they had already been laid out and repacked as opposed to where they were intially intended to be laid out.

[DCI]

The Interesting thing about the car is  that someone actually noticed half way through that the posters were there, and not a particularly good idea.  This alone points to gross incompetence on someone's part, but a bit too late by then.
But I can't help wondering if they considered doing a rerun.

They tampered with the evidence Eleanor.  How many other objects did they tamper with?  Did you know that the clothing had been laid out originally on a dirty floor and had to be removed for a second attempt?  You couldn't make it up if you tried. 

Eddie was also used to search down town and on the beach and found nada.

Thank you, Angelo. Just what I've been waiting for.
 
To avoid contamination of evidence that will be gathered at the McCanns', Mark Harrison has insisted on the availability of decontaminated premises exclusively set aside for this purpose. Julio Barroso, mayor of Lagos, agrees to lend us the garage of a new, unoccupied building in the centre of Lagos. The place is cleaned from top to bottom.


The soft toy and all the clothes from the house are placed into boxes specially made to preserve evidence. These objects are then conveyed to the decontaminated premises. They are placed on the ground, a good distance apart for the dogs to examine.

At 8pm, Tavares de Almeida calls me to let me know that Mark Harrison requires another place because this one is not sufficiently clean.

- How do I find a place at this kind of time?

- Sort it out!

Julio Barroso offers us the new sports hall in Lagos which, finally, meets the required standards. The objects are once again laid out on the ground and the dogs can start. Eddie alerts us to a strong cadaver odour on some of Kate's clothes, but the CSI dog doesn't detect the slightest trace of blood.

I'm not sure about this. Could a PT speaker please check the original PT version?

There could be a misinterpretation that they had already been laid out and repacked as opposed to where they were intially intended to be laid out.

Doesn't need checking out, Carana.
Its from Gonc's book, he said it  .
He used a manky garage first, then the sweaty sports hall.

[Carana]

The Interesting thing about the car is  that someone actually noticed half way through that the posters were there, and not a particularly good idea.  This alone points to gross incompetence on someone's part, but a bit too late by then.
But I can't help wondering if they considered doing a rerun.

They tampered with the evidence Eleanor.  How many other objects did they tamper with?  Did you know that the clothing had been laid out originally on a dirty floor and had to be removed for a second attempt?  You couldn't make it up if you tried. 

Eddie was also used to search down town and on the beach and found nada.

Thank you, Angelo. Just what I've been waiting for.
 
To avoid contamination of evidence that will be gathered at the McCanns', Mark Harrison has insisted on the availability of decontaminated premises exclusively set aside for this purpose. Julio Barroso, mayor of Lagos, agrees to lend us the garage of a new, unoccupied building in the centre of Lagos. The place is cleaned from top to bottom.


The soft toy and all the clothes from the house are placed into boxes specially made to preserve evidence. These objects are then conveyed to the decontaminated premises. They are placed on the ground, a good distance apart for the dogs to examine.

At 8pm, Tavares de Almeida calls me to let me know that Mark Harrison requires another place because this one is not sufficiently clean.

- How do I find a place at this kind of time?

- Sort it out!

Julio Barroso offers us the new sports hall in Lagos which, finally, meets the required standards. The objects are once again laid out on the ground and the dogs can start. Eddie alerts us to a strong cadaver odour on some of Kate's clothes, but the CSI dog doesn't detect the slightest trace of blood.

I'm not sure about this. Could a PT speaker please check the original PT version?

There could be a misinterpretation that they had already been laid out and repacked as opposed to where they were intially intended to be laid out.

Doesn't need checking out, Carana.
Its from Gonc's book, he said it  .
He used a manky garage first, then the sweaty sports hall.

Yes, but that passage is fron an unofficial translation from a French translation, in itself based on the Portuguese original.


And I have a doubt about the implication of the tense used in the original. Hence my question.

I know... I'm a pain.