Psychics, Criminal Profilers, Trolls ... What is the difference?

[Heriberto Janosch]

Psychics, Criminal Profilers, Trolls ... What is the difference?

Only a question to all the forum people ...

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/amanda_berry_is_dead_psychic_t.html

Heri.

Amanda Berry is dead, psychic tells her mother on Montel Williams' show (republished)

For 19 months, Louwana Miller refused to give up hope that her missing daughter might still be alive.

Not anymore.

Desperate for any clue as to Amanda Berry’s whereabouts, and tired of unanswered questions from authorities, Miller turned to a psychic on Montel Williams’ nationally syndicated television show.

The psychic said what the FBI, police and Miller hadn’t.

“She’s not alive, honey,” Sylvia Browne told her matter-of-factly. “Your daughter’s not the kind who wouldn’t call.”

With those blunt words, Browne persuaded Miller to accept a grim probability that has become more likely with each passing day.

Miller went back to the West Side home where she had been keeping Amanda’s things in careful order and cleaned up. She gave away her daughter’s computer and took down her pictures. “I’m not even buying my baby a Christmas present this year,” she said.

Miller said she returned devastated from the show, taped this month in New York.

“I lost it,” she said.

Miller said she believes “98 percent” in Browne.

“Please don’t misunderstand me. I still don’t want to believe it. I want to have hope but, after a year and a half, what else is there?” Miller said. “It seems like the God-honest truth. My daughter would always call home.”

The FBI and police put less faith in Browne’s powers, saying they still will consider Berry alive and missing until her body or evidence is found to prove otherwise, officials said.

Amanda disappeared April 21, 2003, a day before her 17th birthday.

She left work at Burger King at West 110th Street and Lorain Avenue, about a 10-minute walk from home. The 5-foot-4, 110-pound, brown-eyed teen phoned her sister en route to say she had a ride home.

At Miller’s request, FBI agents investigating Amanda’s disappearance met with Miller after the show to discuss Browne’s other psychic views on the case, special agent Kelly Liberti said.

Browne said she envisioned Amanda’s jacket in a Dumpster with “DNA on it.”

Liberti and Cleveland police spokesman Lt. Wayne Drummond said their law-enforcement agencies listen to all information from all sources, but do not employ or seek the assistance of psychics.

This story was originally published in The Plain Dealer on Nov. 18, 2004. It was written by Stephen Hudak.

[Eleanor]

Not much you can say about that, is there.  Cadaver Dogs and Psychics discredited in one fell swoop.  And more than one person deprived of hope.

[debunker]

They are about as accurate as any pretendy detectives, pro or anti, who think they know what happened to Madeleine!

[Eleanor]

I guess I just get sick to death of these people insisting that Madeleine is dead.  And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.
Silly me.  You can't describe "Hope" to people like this.

[debunker]

I guess I just get sick to death of these people insisting that Madeleine is dead.  And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.
Silly me.  You can't describe "Hope" to people like this.

I hope she is alive; I fear she is dead.

[Eleanor]

I guess I just get sick to death of these people insisting that Madeleine is dead.  And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.
Silly me.  You can't describe "Hope" to people like this.

I hope she is alive; I fear she is dead.

I try not to fear.  Hope is all we have in the absence of any proof to the contrary.  Of course I have considered the possibility that Madeleine is dead.  But while I don't know if she is then I will go on hoping.  It is the nature of this particular beast  This is what makes me a generally happy person.

[Heriberto Janosch]

I guess I just get sick to death of these people insisting that Madeleine is dead.  And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.
Silly me.  You can't describe "Hope" to people like this.

I hope she is alive; I fear she is dead.

I try not to fear.  Hope is all we have in the absence of any proof to the contrary.  Of course I have considered the possibility that Madeleine is dead.  But while I don't know if she is then I will go on hoping.  It is the nature of this particular beast  This is what makes me a generally happy person.

Eleanor, I agree with you, absolutely. Heri.

[Eleanor]

I guess I just get sick to death of these people insisting that Madeleine is dead.  And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.
Silly me.  You can't describe "Hope" to people like this.

I hope she is alive; I fear she is dead.

I try not to fear.  Hope is all we have in the absence of any proof to the contrary.  Of course I have considered the possibility that Madeleine is dead.  But while I don't know if she is then I will go on hoping.  It is the nature of this particular beast  This is what makes me a generally happy person.

Eleanor, I agree with you, absolutely. Heri.

Thank you, Heri. 
I don't know what to say to people who don't have my sort of hope.  It is what has kept me going through my fair share of disasters.  I deal with disaster when it happens.  Hope is what makes me able to.

[icabodcrane]

Are we seriously being asked to debate the difference between Lee Rainbow and Derek Acorah ?

...  seriously ?

[Heriberto Janosch]

Are we seriously being asked to debate the difference between Lee Rainbow and Derek Acorah ?

...  seriously ?

We are not debaitng! Please, icabodcrane, tell us what is the difference in their methods, and if they are scientific, or not?  ... seriously!

Heri.

[AnneGuedes]

And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.

May I ask ?

[Eleanor]

And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.

May I ask ?

That was not my intention on this occasion.

[AnneGuedes]

And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.

May I ask ?

That was not my intention on this occasion.

I expect from your generosity it is your intention in any occasion provided that the requiring ones' lives depend on hope.

[Eleanor]

And when asked, I have on occasions tried to offer a solution to the opposite, while not actually knowing anything at all of absolute fact.

May I ask ?

That was not my intention on this occasion.

I expect from your generosity it is your intention in any occasion provided that the requiring ones' lives depend on hope.

I don't need to speculate to give people hope.  And I have discovered that it is a waste of time anyway.

[Anthro]

Joe Power, a psychic from the UK, did an interview about three weeks ago where he discusses his views on what happened to Madeleine. Perhaps most of you know this already. I find it interesting that he also considers the house at 5 Pescadores, opposite the church in Praia da Luz as significant. I cannot find a direct link, but on Google and Facebook you can access the link.