Psychics, Criminal Profilers, Trolls ... What is the difference?

[The General]

Joe Power, a psychic from the UK, did an interview about three weeks ago where he discusses his views on what happened to Madeleine. Perhaps most of you know this already. I find it interesting that he also considers the house at 5 Pescadores, opposite the church in Praia da Luz as significant. I cannot find a direct link, but on Google and Facebook you can access the link.

This Joe Power, lad from Liverpool?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duxQA9TcDcA

[Anthro]

This Joe Power, lad from Liverpool?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duxQA9TcDcA

I don’t know. He seems ‘credible’.

[G-Unit]

Joe Power, a psychic from the UK, did an interview about three weeks ago where he discusses his views on what happened to Madeleine. Perhaps most of you know this already. I find it interesting that he also considers the house at 5 Pescadores, opposite the church in Praia da Luz as significant. I cannot find a direct link, but on Google and Facebook you can access the link.

He thinks she died in or very near to PdL. Not that psychics are high on my list of people to believe.

[The General]

I don’t know. He seems ‘credible’.

Trust me when I say he's not.
He's a charlatan. He plays to packed out pubs and social clubs, but it's generally harmless parlour tricks and cold reading. The girls love it. I'll give him this, I respect his chutzpah. You can't do what he does and carry it off without some serious town halls.

[The General]

Anyway, where did you dredge this thread from?

[Miss Taken Identity]

He thinks she died in or very near to PdL. Not that psychics are high on my list of people to believe.

Yes is that really a revelation? He thinks  she dies in or near PDL.  no sht Sherlock  many thousands think that!!!

He sounds like one of those >  ok erm  do you know someone with the initial J     they say YES  he say  don't tell me it's john.. or jim?    erm hang on  its a bit fading  what relation is he to you who passed on?  Yes my uncle John dies recently... blah blah.


What I will about some spiritualists... do mess with that real stuff.

[G-Unit]

Psychics rely on something that they can't prove exists. Criminal profilers use past occurances to try to predict the type of person who might have committed a crime, so they can show the evidence they based their profiles on. Both are at least trying to help to solve a crime.

Trolls have no such aims. Their aim is to cause discord and upset others. Their ploys on forums include;

Insulting other members.
Pretending they're always right and showing a determination to have the last word.
Using the excuse of being offended by post contents.
Posting off-topic to hamper debate.

[Mr Gray]

Psychics rely on something that they can't prove exists. Criminal profilers use past occurances to try to predict the type of person who might have committed a crime, so they can show the evidence they based their profiles on. Both are at least trying to help to solve a crime.

Trolls have no such aims. Their aim is to cause discord and upset others. Their ploys on forums include;

Insulting other members.
Pretending they're always right and showing a determination to have the last word.
Using the excuse of being offended by post contents.
Posting off-topic to hamper debate.

Imo you've just about summed yourself up

[G-Unit]

Imo you've just about summed yourself up

 

[Mr Gray]

I find trolls make a lot of use of emojis too

[G-Unit]

I find trolls make a lot of use of emojis too

Some of them think they're always right too.

[Mr Gray]

Some of them think they're always right too.

im sure you think you are right...or do you accept you are not..imo you are wrong about several things....but you think you are right. You really should realise that everything you are accusing others of applies to yourself....

[The General]

Joe Power, a psychic from the UK, did an interview about three weeks ago where he discusses his views on what happened to Madeleine. Perhaps most of you know this already. I find it interesting that he also considers the house at 5 Pescadores, opposite the church in Praia da Luz as significant. I cannot find a direct link, but on Google and Facebook you can access the link.

I telephone Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for Kate and Gerry McCann. "The Portuguese and Leicestershire police have had over 1,000 psychic tip-offs," he tells me, "and they've followed up between 10% and 15% of them."

"What do you mean when you say 'followed up'?" I ask.

"If there's anything demonstrably checkable," he says, "an address, a car registration, a flight number, they check." He gives me an example: "One psychic telephoned Leicestershire police to say she'd had a vision of Madeleine playing with other children in a named farm in Seville. The Leicestershire police called the Spanish police who went and kicked a few doors in."

Clarence says that none of this should come as a great surprise. "Some forces in England use psychics," he points out. "They were used on the Milly Dowler case." Thirteen-year-old Milly Dowler vanished on her way home from school in Walton-on-Thames in March 2002. Her body was discovered six months later.

"It was quite strange, actually," Clarence goes on. "The psychic said that Milly would be found in woodland and she was." He pauses. "Even the Met occasionally uses psychics as an active line of inquiry."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/oct/27/usa.jonronson

[Miss Taken Identity]

I telephone Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for Kate and Gerry McCann. "The Portuguese and Leicestershire police have had over 1,000 psychic tip-offs," he tells me, "and they've followed up between 10% and 15% of them."

"What do you mean when you say 'followed up'?" I ask.

"If there's anything demonstrably checkable," he says, "an address, a car registration, a flight number, they check." He gives me an example: "One psychic telephoned Leicestershire police to say she'd had a vision of Madeleine playing with other children in a named farm in Seville. The Leicestershire police called the Spanish police who went and kicked a few doors in."

Clarence says that none of this should come as a great surprise. "Some forces in England use psychics," he points out. "They were used on the Milly Dowler case." Thirteen-year-old Milly Dowler vanished on her way home from school in Walton-on-Thames in March 2002. Her body was discovered six months later.

"It was quite strange, actually," Clarence goes on. "The psychic said that Milly would be found in woodland and she was." He pauses. "Even the Met occasionally uses psychics as an active line of inquiry."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/oct/27/usa.jonronson

Sacarie stuff!  the American woman is just plain nasty.  Strange thing is  she did get thing right, then lost the power?

I give these people a wide berth, I will share with you why.  My friends as a group of teenagers went to see a fortune teller in England when we were looking Universities to attend. Just for a bit of a laugh and would we get a boy friend and who fancied us etc. silly girly stuff.  The old woman came out to where we were sitting and looked at strangely and said. Oh I need to speak to you.   Giggling I followed her into a room. she held my hand and said the 'locket is under the car'.  I had no idea what she was talking about, so smiled at everything she said. My sister would go to Australia, My cousin would go to America and never come back. well none of what she said made any sense,I wrote her off as  fraud.

4 years later on my sisters anniversary (we were children when she died) My mum said Oh I wish the police could have given us all her personal belongings in including the locket. I suddenly got a jolt and asked about it. my sister took my mums locket and wore it on that day. I told her what the phycic said years before and was astonished when my dad said - I repaired that driveway few days after that.  My dad went to the repair area dug it up and found the locket!  15 years later my sister did emigrate to Australia and my cousin was killed in America 17 years after being told this.

I believe the woman is dead.  I steer clear of these people!. Too many are frauds.

[Mr Gray]

Sacarie stuff!  the American woman is just plain nasty.  Strange thing is  she did get thing right, then lost the power?

I give these people a wide berth, I will share with you why.  My friends as a group of teenagers went to see a fortune teller in England when we were looking Universities to attend. Just for a bit of a laugh and would we get a boy friend and who fancied us etc. silly girly stuff.  The old woman came out to where we were sitting and looked at strangely and said. Oh I need to speak to you.   Giggling I followed her into a room. she held my hand and said the 'locket is under the car'.  I had no idea what she was talking about, so smiled at everything she said. My sister would go to Australia, My cousin would go to America and never come back. well none of what she said made any sense,I wrote her off as  fraud.

4 years later on my sisters anniversary (we were children when she died) My mum said Oh I wish the police could have given us all her personal belongings in including the locket. I suddenly got a jolt and asked about it. my sister took my mums locket and wore it on that day. I told her what the phycic said years before and was astonished when my dad said - I repaired that driveway few days after that.  My dad went to the repair area dug it up and found the locket!  15 years later my sister did emigrate to Australia and my cousin was killed in America 17 years after being told this.

I believe the woman is dead.  I steer clear of these people!. Too many are frauds.

this might seem astonishing to you but certainly to me...its just rubbish. No confirmation of anything ...just an anonymous internet poster making claims