Eddie's alert in the garden

[Alice Purjorick]

IIRC it has been shown on here that the dogs alert to any human remains /fluids/ scents has it not?  Please correct me if I am remembering this incorrectly.

That's one of them thar myths you keep on about.

"Forensic Search Dog (The primary focus of this paper)
A canine that has been specifically trained to indicate a scent source as being from decomposed human tissue. Such animals are also trained to exclude (deconditioned to) the scent of human urine, feces, and semen and will not alert on residual scent from a live human; and have never been trained to locate any scent other than that of decomposed human tissue".

[Mr Gray]

I like your style Peggy 

There was this bloke named Matthew Zarella who used dogs to find MIAs in VietNam.
He had some interesting things to to say about scent and how long it lasted. Another geezer named Andy Rebmann who wrote extensively on the topic did too.

there is a difference in remnant scent and that emanating from a body that is still in situ....two completely different situations

[pathfinder73]

This search by Eddie was months after the body had been removed.

Further searches identified a location where the EVRD alerted in the front bedroom of the offender's empty next door dwelling house.
When interviewed the suspect admitted that the body had laid in the room for 1 hour prior to disposal. Forensic teams were unable to extract any forensic evidence despite being shown the exact position.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

[pegasus]

There were two slightly different versions of this pj top - see rear of collar
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P13/13_VOLUME_XIIIa_Page_3484.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_03/madjam_468x695.jpg

[pathfinder73]

Why has the neck/collar tag been ripped off?

[pegasus]

there is a difference in remnant scent and that emanating from a body that is still in situ....two completely different situations

... only one of which might result in detection months later?

[pegasus]

Why has the neck/collar tag been ripped off?

Nothing's been ripped off Pathfinder, they are two different manufacturing versions.

[Mr Gray]

This search by Eddie was months after the body had been removed.

Further searches identified a location where the EVRD alerted in the front bedroom of the offender's empty next door dwelling house.
When interviewed the suspect admitted that the body had laid in the room for 1 hour prior to disposal. Forensic teams were unable to extract any forensic evidence despite being shown the exact position.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

which case is this on your link...do you have a name as I can't see it

found it now  seems the house was unoccupied so undisturbed....how long after the death did the dog go in

[pathfinder73]

Attracta Harron - nearly 4 months later. McCann case was only 3 months later.

Mr Mooney told the jury, the Fire Brigade had been called to a car fire at 12.57pm on December 11, 2003 to Hamilton’s home.

He said highly trained dogs were also employed on April 5, 2004 to search the property and the river, and it was through the dogs that the remains were found.

[Brietta]

To my understanding they collected broken branches. Probably wondering the reason why they had broken off the climbing plant. Detective work needs to follow up this lead after Eddie was most interested in that area.

Martin Grime said further investigation was required; if such was ever carried out it added nothing to Eddie's 'interest' since we have heard nothing further.

[Mr Gray]

Attracta Harron - nearly 4 months later. McCann case was only 3 months later.

Mr Mooney told the jury, the Fire Brigade had been called to a car fire at 12.57pm on December 11, 2003 to Hamilton’s home.

He said highly trained dogs were also employed on April 5, 2004 to search the property and the river, and it was through the dogs that the remains were found.

in this case the house was empty and therefore undisturbed...as opposed to the mccanns apt ...that makes a massive difference

[Carana]

To my understanding they collected broken branches. Probably wondering the reason why they had broken off the climbing plant. Detective work needs to follow up this lead after Eddie was most interested in that area.

They did get them checked for synthetic fibres, but there weren't any.

What doesn't appear to have been investigated is whether there was a crawl space under there or not.

[pegasus]

They did get them checked for synthetic fibres, but there weren't any. (snip)

The main fabric of both parts of her pyjamas was natural cotton.

[Mr Gray]

Attracta Harron - nearly 4 months later. McCann case was only 3 months later.

Mr Mooney told the jury, the Fire Brigade had been called to a car fire at 12.57pm on December 11, 2003 to Hamilton’s home.

He said highly trained dogs were also employed on April 5, 2004 to search the property and the river, and it was through the dogs that the remains were found.

Attracta Harron was Eddie's finest hour....but it seems he had very few hours

[Brietta]

in this case the house was empty and therefore undisturbed...as opposed to the mccanns apt ...that makes a massive difference

There were three or four different sets of people holidaying in the house in the intervening period.  That would have involved a normal cleaning routine plus a deep clean between each occupancy.

Entirely different from an enclosed, undisturbed area.