Eddie's alert in the garden

[pegasus]

(snip) CC was a toy. Dogs like playing with toys so MG hid it. (snip)

Eddie was not trained with stuffed toys Pathfinder.

He was trained with a tennis ball.

[misty]

276 acre farm he lived on. CC was a toy. Dogs like playing with toys so MG hid it.

Depends on what reports you read:

Prout had shown officers an area of 300 square yards (250 square metres) on Redhill Farm but was unable to give the exact location.

Prout, who fathered a child with Ms Garlick after his wife's disappearance, was thought to have strangled her and then used his expertise as a professional pipe-layer to bury her body.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-confirm-they-have-found-kate-prouts-body-6267989.html

FBI Recruits Expert, K-9 From UK
A dog who is trained to find human remains has been brought in from the United Kingdom to help in the search for Theresa Parker, the Walker County 911 operator who has been missing for almost six months.
FBI Regional Director John Parrish said Martin Grimes and his English springer spaniel Eddie are some of the best in the world at finding bodies.
Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson introduced Mr. Grimes and Eddie at a press conference in LaFayette on Thursday afternoon.

Eddie did not find Theresa's body. He merely corroborated an alert by another cadaver dog at a particular location.

[pathfinder73]

Eddie was not trained with stuffed toys Pathfinder.

He was trained with a tennis ball.

He played with toys as a puppy. Somebody close to Grime has told you what he said. "Reverted to puppy mode which was not unusual." So he hid the toy.

[ferryman]

276 acre farm he lived on. CC was a toy. Dogs like playing with toys so MG hid it.

Depends on what reports you read:

Prout had shown officers an area of 300 square yards (250 square metres) on Redhill Farm but was unable to give the exact location.

Prout, who fathered a child with Ms Garlick after his wife's disappearance, was thought to have strangled her and then used his expertise as a professional pipe-layer to bury her body.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-confirm-they-have-found-kate-prouts-body-6267989.html

FBI Recruits Expert, K-9 From UK
A dog who is trained to find human remains has been brought in from the United Kingdom to help in the search for Theresa Parker, the Walker County 911 operator who has been missing for almost six months.
FBI Regional Director John Parrish said Martin Grimes and his English springer spaniel Eddie are some of the best in the world at finding bodies.
Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson introduced Mr. Grimes and Eddie at a press conference in LaFayette on Thursday afternoon.

Finding a body within a 300 yard area would be a fairly straightforward exercise.

And in the Theresa Parker case, Grime was required to task Eddie to find a sample pair of trousers (sic) laced with a cadaver scent.

Sounds, suspiciously, like pseudo-scent, to me ....

[pathfinder73]

Finding a body within a 300 yard area would be a fairly straightforward exercise.

And in the Theresa Parker case, Grime was required to task Eddie to find a sample pair of trousers (sic) laced with a cadaver scent.

Sounds, suspiciously, like pseudo-scent, to me ....

Eddie doesn't alert to pseudo scent. He trained at the FBI body farm in America - all human cadavers.

[pegasus]

(snip) And in the Theresa Parker case, Grime was required to task Eddie to find a sample pair of trousers (sic) laced with a cadaver scent.

Sounds, suspiciously, like pseudo-scent, to me ....

Not necessarily. Natural scent might have been used.

[ferryman]

Not necessarily. Natural scent might have been used.

You mean a natural cadaver scent?

[Alice Purjorick]

It is not a little woof. It is a loud and clear woof.
Possibly you mean it is a single woof, whereas the woofs in the bedroom, and in the lounge, were multiple?

This is somewhat akin to British Rail and "the wrong sort of snow".
In this case "the wrong sort of bark".
Oh dear.

[pegasus]

This is somewhat akin to British Rail and "the wrong sort of snow".
In this case "the wrong sort of bark".
Oh dear.

If anyone had ever been responsible for safety on the railways they would know that the greatly increased stopping distances which can be caused by snow ice or leaves are serious matters, which sometimes require speed reductions and necessary delays. It is science that if you put a slippery substance between two bits of metal the friction is reduced, just as it is science that when a cadaver scent detector alerts, it means there is cadaver scent there. 

[Admin]

Topic please!

[misty]

If anyone had ever been responsible for safety on the railways they would know that the greatly increased stopping distances which can be caused by snow ice or leaves are serious matters, which sometimes require speed reductions and necessary delays. It is science that if you put a slippery substance between two bits of metal the friction is reduced, just as it is science that when a cadaver scent detector alerts, it means there is cadaver scent there.

Not strictly true. It means that the cadaver scent detector is responding to the chemical odours it has been programmed to react to. As the odour unique to human cadaver has yet to be identified. such odour may be present in other substances, naturally occurring or otherwise.

[mercury]

Not strictly true. It means that the cadaver scent detector is responding to the chemical odours it has been programmed to react to. As the odour unique to human cadaver has yet to be identified. such odour may be present in other substances, naturally occurring or otherwise.

such as ? And
Which did not exist anywhere in all the PDL search areas?

[misty]

such as ? And
Which did not exist anywhere in all the PDL search areas?

If your smoke alarm goes off, is it scientific proof that your house is on fire or may it be as a result of someone smoking a cigarette near it?? If a carbon monoxide detector goes off, is it scientific proof that you have a faulty boiler or is there a forest fire outside?

[mercury]

If your smoke alarm goes off, is it scientific proof that your house is on fire or may it be as a result of someone smoking a cigarette near it?? If a carbon monoxide detector goes off, is it scientific proof that you have a faulty boiler or is there a forest fire outside?

Its not scientific proof house is on fire but proof the detector picked up smoke...smoke is smoke

[misty]

Its not scientific proof house is on fire but proof the detector picked up smoke...smoke is smoke

A smoke detector is not necessarily set off by smoke. It can react to heat, or condensation entering the unit which cuts off the electric current bouncing between the plates in the ionising chamber.