Who were the witnesses who saw a man loitering near the McCann's apartment ?

[Holly Goodhead]

What evidence exists re RM, SM, McCanns, T7, 3 x local petty criminals and anyone else hauled in by PJ? 

[Mr Gray]

What evidence exists re RM, SM, McCanns, T7, 3 x local petty criminals and anyone else hauled in by PJ?

you have not been able to convince one poster on this forum...yet you expect to convince SY and the PJ...LOL

[Holly Goodhead]

you have not been able to convince one poster on this forum...yet you expect to convince SY and the PJ...LOL

And you and others here haven't been able to persuade the sceptics to your way of thinking so what is your point? 
 
I would have expected PJ to put every single person under the microscope who was known to have been in close proximity to 5A on 3rd May regardless of age, perceived status or any other factor. 

[G-Unit]

And you and others here haven't been able to persuade the sceptics to your way of thinking so what is your point? 
 
I would have expected PJ to put every single person under the microscope who was known to have been in close proximity to 5A on 3rd May regardless of age, perceived status or any other factor.

It seems the PJ were unaware of this woman's existence until they spoke to her aunt. She approached the British police herself and made an early statement, but was that passed on?

[Mr Gray]

And you and others here haven't been able to persuade the sceptics to your way of thinking so what is your point? 
 
I would have expected PJ to put every single person under the microscope who was known to have been in close proximity to 5A on 3rd May regardless of age, perceived status or any other factor.

The difference is Ive never claimed i would change poeples mind...im not interested in doing so. You however have claimed to have solved the case...when you obviously havent

[Holly Goodhead]

It seems the PJ were unaware of this woman's existence until they spoke to her aunt. She approached the British police herself and made an early statement, but was that passed on?

It seems PF did not provide a wit stat until 20th Aug when she mentions the visit from her niece and the niece's sighting of the suspicious man.  Angelo has suggested not all contact is captured.  I assume by this he means an officer may have spoken with PF briefly and recorded something in a notebook.   

We have no idea whether the niece's wit stat and efit were passed on.  And there's no evidence the authorities have checked out these individuals on the basis they were in close proximity to 5A on the day MM disappeared.  The wit stat was simply the nieces version of events.  The police rog was a series of questions raised by the PJ.  If any corroboration took place I would expect to see evidence of such in PJ files.  British police were not tasked with investigating in 2008 they were merely following up requests from PJ.

[Holly Goodhead]

The difference is Ive never claimed i would change poeples mind...im not interested in doing so. You however have claimed to have solved the case...when you obviously havent

Where have I claimed I've changed peoples' minds?

How do you know my suspects were not already on  the radar based on the Netflix docu/drama?

[Mr Gray]

Where have I claimed I've changed peoples' minds?

How do you know my suspects were not already on  the radar based on the Netflix docu/drama?

You claimed you had solved the case... You obviously havent

[Vertigo Swirl]

What evidence exists re RM, SM, McCanns, T7, 3 x local petty criminals and anyone else hauled in by PJ?

I have no objection to anyone being “hauled in” by the PJ, questioned and investigated - that’s their job and they are supposed to be the experts and have first hand access.  I do object to armchair detectives taking it upon themselves to investigate the ancestry of individuals, their social media accounts, their birth and marriage records in an attempt to find something, anything to substantiate a suspicion .  I reckon you could build a similar case about any of the people in the vicinity of Apartment 5a on the night in question by doing what you have done.  And I object to this woman having the finger of blame pointed at her by a moderator on the Miscarriage of Justice forum.  It’s beyond ironic imo.

[G-Unit]

It seems PF did not provide a wit stat until 20th Aug when she mentions the visit from her niece and the niece's sighting of the suspicious man.  Angelo has suggested not all contact is captured.  I assume by this he means an officer may have spoken with PF briefly and recorded something in a notebook.   

We have no idea whether the niece's wit stat and efit were passed on.  And there's no evidence the authorities have checked out these individuals on the basis they were in close proximity to 5A on the day MM disappeared.  The wit stat was simply the nieces version of events.  The police rog was a series of questions raised by the PJ.  If any corroboration took place I would expect to see evidence of such in PJ files.  British police were not tasked with investigating in 2008 they were merely following up requests from PJ.

The British Authorities went way beyond following up requests from the PJ.

[Robittybob1]

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

Holly is convinced, no one else seems to agree.

[Robittybob1]

Holly is convinced, no one else seems to agree.

Proven guilty through a court process.  You can believe your own theory but that has still to be backed by a court decision IMO. 

[Mr Gray]

Proven guilty through a court process.  You can believe your own theory but that has still to be backed by a court decision IMO.

thats a point ive raised before ...holly cannot claim to have solved the case.

[The General]

thats a point ive raised before ...holly cannot claim to have solved the case.

Of course you can. You can claim whatever you like. It's only a verified claim at the end of the process.