Who were the witnesses who saw a man loitering near the McCann's apartment ?

[Holly Goodhead]

Whereas I think you have been watching too many fictional crime films.

How do you think the authorities were able to identify the two Russians supposedly linked to the poising in Salisbury? 

[Holly Goodhead]

Wheat and chaff. The others would have been filtered out, probably semi-informally, through the process - rightly or wrongly, depending on your leaning. They developed Persons of Interest. Then they developed Arguidi (I just made up the Portuguese plural of Arguido for them).

What evidence existed against RM?

[Holly Goodhead]

Then what method did they use to eliminate people from the inquiry?

I've no idea.

It seems in the case of RM he had his world ripped apart when there wasn't ever a scrap of evidence linking him to MM's disappearance.  How would he have known the McCanns nighttime MO? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

I've no idea.

It seems in the case of RM he had his world ripped apart when there wasn't ever a scrap of evidence linking him to MM's disappearance.  How would he have known the McCanns nighttime MO?

You mean there wasn’t a single inconsistency in his or his mother’s account, or details of his ancestors’ past that could be forensically scrutinised and presented as a theory of involvement ?  I’m sure you could do so if you wanted to.

[Holly Goodhead]

But they're not suspects, they're witnesses and will be processed accordingly. If one of them pops out for any reason, then they'll dig a bit deeper. Why would they delve in to the minutiae of the movements of the dude who empties the bins if he wasn't deemed to be a red flag?

In this case everyone who potentially knew McCanns nighttime MO needed to be made a suspect which excludes the bin man along with RM, Sergey Malinka, the female associated with RM/SM, the black guy (now deceased) and the 3 local petty criminals. 

[Holly Goodhead]

You mean there wasn’t a single inconsistency in his or his mother’s account, or details of his ancestors’ past that could be forensically scrutinised and presented as a theory of involvement ?  I’m sure you could do so if you wanted to.

Why would I when they had no knowledge the McCanns were dining at tapas every evening AND leaving the children unsupervised AND not bothering to lock doors.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why would I when they had no knowledge the McCanns were dining at tapas every evening AND leaving the children unsupervised AND not bothering to lock doors.

How do you know?  They may have had insider info, been working as part of a gang, you’re just making assumptions without forensically studying their every connection, their every movement pre and post the abduction.

[G-Unit]

In this case everyone who potentially knew McCanns nighttime MO needed to be made a suspect which excludes the bin man along with RM, Sergey Malinka, the female associated with RM/SM, the black guy (now deceased) and the 3 local petty criminals.

Who do we know knew the McCann's MO? According to the statements no-one knew that the patio doors were left unlocked until Kate McCann told her friends at 9pm on 3rd.

[Holly Goodhead]

How do you know?  They may have had insider info, been working as part of a gang, you’re just making assumptions without forensically studying their every connection, their every movement pre and post the abduction.

I work on what's plausible AND possible.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I work on what's plausible AND possible.

you cannot be serious.  There is nothing plausible about your theory, starting with: what did the Tranmers do with Madeleine after allegedly stealing her?!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Who do we know knew the McCann's MO? According to the statements no-one knew that the patio doors were left unlocked until Kate McCann told her friends at 9pm on 3rd.

Do you have a cite from each of the seven tapas members stating that they didn’t know the patio doors were left unlocked?

[Holly Goodhead]

you cannot be serious.  There is nothing plausible about your theory, starting with: what did the Tranmers do with Madeleine after allegedly stealing her?!

I've never claimed to know exactly who was involved and what the motive was. 

Did certain individuals know MM was 'home alone' in the unsecured apartment?  Possibly yes

Did certain individuals know a recent attempted burglary had taken place directly above 5A and they could stage window and shutter to deflect?  Possibly yes

Did certain individuals who potentially had access to the above info also have a hire car?  Yes

Did the S&R dogs scent MM outside the immediate vicinity?  No   

[Holly Goodhead]

Who do we know knew the McCann's MO? According to the statements no-one knew that the patio doors were left unlocked until Kate McCann told her friends at 9pm on 3rd.

PF who heard MM crying and calling 'daddy, daddy' for well over an hour on 1st May until she heard the patio doors slide open and the crying ceased.

[Holly Goodhead]

I've never claimed to know exactly who was involved and what the motive was. 

Did certain individuals know MM was 'home alone' in the unsecured apartment?  Possibly yes

Did certain individuals know a recent attempted burglary had taken place directly above 5A and they could stage window and shutter to deflect?  Possibly yes

Did certain individuals who potentially had access to the above info also have a hire car?  Yes

Did the S&R dogs scent MM outside the immediate vicinity?  No

What I don't do is rule anyone in/out based on perception especially when the motive is unknown.

I certainly don't think will this seems unlikely based on gender, age and type of house lived in.   

[alphonse]

Re the Tapas group and entry to the Mc Cann flat by patio doors: if memory serves me correctly Russell says he went in through the patio doors on the Sunday night.Either he or Matt says he remembers the ´´change of routine ´´ by the Mc Canns being mentioned at the table maybe on the Monday. Jane Tanner says she was not told but came to that conclusion. Why? Simples. They are all eating and drinking together. They get up to leave. All of them go together. The rest go up the street to the car park etc. Where do the Mc Canns go?  Up the steps to their patio.

 Cites? You must be joking- it´s all in their endless statements.