Who were the witnesses who saw a man loitering near the McCann's apartment ?

[barrier]

I think you are quite mistaken....do you think Philpott would have kept the investigation in the limelight for 12 years had he not been caught......i think Holly is spot on in this case

Have the McCann kept it in the spotlight? papers certainly have at the the behest of who though,probably themselves,Madeleine the gift that keeps giving.

[barrier]

  Interesting.

When I last visited the Algarve, I actually saw RM in a very interesting up market, semi private place, over 20 miles from his home.  As we drove past, he waved to us.  Must have thought that we were residents.

Of course, he may only have been making a social call, but this quiet area was over 20 miles from home.  Quite a coincidence.   We saw no other person there in this interesting place; a cul de sac ...not one.


It did interest me because I had specially visited this quiet place for a reason ... and also when I mentioned it on forum, saying  that he was tall,  someone on here immediately posted an image of him making his legs way shorter.  It was a very crude amateur and obvious alteration of a photo designed to try to make him look short.

Now that also interested me.  Why would anyone dash to produce a 'fake' image of him to make him look short?


Also the GE images of the area have been changed, very professionally ... and that has interested me too.   



I don't expect any of you will believe me; some of you make a profession of denouncing and rubbishing me and everything I say.


And with those that do, I tend to look at a little closer at them 

Tin hat on and bunkered down. 




Unfortunately wont be around much to smile at any comments.

Looks of medium height.

[sadie]

Looks of medium height.

Looks of medium height.

He is up there with the policemen.   Police tend to be tall not short.

Had a photo showing Rob with the police officers en mass near 5A but cant find it now and he was up there with them on that.  I posted it on the forum but most of you will have seen it.   Quite tall, IMO.   Six feet tall ?

He has quite a presence as he walks towards you with his broad chest.  And he was very genial

[barrier]

He is up there with the policemen.   Police tend to be tall not short.

Had a photo showing Rob with the police officers en mass near 5A but cant find it now and he was up there with them on that.  I posted it on the forum but most of you will have seen it.   Quite tall, IMO.   Six feet tall ?

He has quite a presence as he walks towards you with his broad chest.  And he was very genial

This one,still looks average to me,apologise to who ever if its not Mr Murat.

[Miss Taken Identity]

This one,still looks average to me,apologise to who ever if its not Mr Murat.

It does look like Murat.  Police wear hats to make them look Taller!

[sadie]

It does look like Murat. Police wear hats to make them look Taller!

Well spotted, Mistaken.   

You are correct, so when they take their hats off, the police officers are shorter than they look


additionally,

Murat is leaning over at an angle, not standing up straight, whilst most of the PJ are upright.  This will make Murat appear shorter


I think that these 2 points indicate that Rob Murat is probably taller than the average height of the officers.

Thank you Mistaken 

[Myster]

This one,still looks average to me,apologise to who ever if its not Mr Murat.

Of course it's Murat.  The police are wearing thick-soled boots in comparison to Murat's patents, and the average height of Portuguese males is shorter than the norm... https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajhb.10017

[Myster]

He is up there with the policemen.   Police tend to be tall not short.

Had a photo showing Rob with the police officers en mass near 5A but cant find it now and he was up there with them on that.  I posted it on the forum but most of you will have seen it.   Quite tall, IMO.   Six feet tall ?

He has quite a presence as he walks towards you with his broad chest.  And he was very genial

... but he's got short legs.  I can tell with my x-ray specs...

https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/image-editorial/robert-murat-at-the-high-court-where-he-was-awarded-substantial-damages-from-11-newspapers-over-their-coverage-of-the-disappearance-of-madeline-mccann-london-britain-17-jul-2008-782937f

[The General]

Well spotted, Mistaken.   

You are correct, so when they take their hats off, the police officers are shorter than they look


additionally,

Murat is leaning over at an angle, not standing up straight, whilst most of the PJ are upright.  This will make Murat appear shorter


I think that these 2 points indicate that Rob Murat is probably taller than the average height of the officers.

Thank you Mistaken 

5'9"

[Holly Goodhead]

Of course I do not know, Holly. It could have been her parent/s, friend/s of the parents, child care worker/s, neighbour/s,    a concerned passer-by. I think Madeleine would have latched onto various people during that period.

I very much doubt a 3 yoa child who had been crying for over an hour and calling for her daddy in an unfamiliar holiday apartment could be soothed by anyone other than her parents and certainly not a stranger. 

PF doesn't say anything about hearing any doors/open close after she heard the patio doors at 11.45 pm. 

[Anthro]

I very much doubt a 3 yoa child who had been crying for over an hour and calling for her daddy in an unfamiliar holiday apartment could be soothed by anyone other than her parents and certainly not a stranger. 

PF doesn't say anything about hearing any doors/open close after she heard the patio doors at 11.45 pm.

How can you be certain that Mrs Fenn was correct re. the following: (1) the crying was in fact from apartment 5A, (2) it was in fact a parent entering and the crying stopped? Also, Rachel Oldfield in the apartment next to the McCanns, was apparently not well and stayed in their apartment on the evening of 1 May 2007. Wouldn’t she, as a friend of Madeleine’s parents, intervene in the crying incident?

[Holly Goodhead]

How can you be certain that Mrs Fenn was correct re. the following: (1) the crying was in fact from apartment 5A, (2) it was in fact a parent entering and the crying stopped? Also, Rachel Oldfield in the apartment next to the McCanns, was apparently not well and stayed in their apartment on the evening of 1 May 2007. Wouldn’t she, as a friend of Madeleine’s parents, intervene in the crying incident?

RO didn't go to dinner on the Wed as she felt unwell not the Tue as you've claimed.

PF was a permanent resident at OC.  Surely she would know what she heard and wear the sound originated from?  If not MM who do you think the crying originated from?  If not McCanns entering who do you think it was? 

[Anthro]

RO didn't go to dinner on the Wed as she felt unwell not the Tue as you've claimed.

PF was a permanent resident at OC.  Surely she would know what she heard and wear the sound originated from?  If not MM who do you think the crying originated from?  If not McCanns entering who do you think it was?

And yet, her husband Matt said she stayed in on the evening of 1 May. I find it strange that if it was Madeleine crying for more than an hour, her two siblings not waking up, upset and also crying.

[Anthro]

RO didn't go to dinner on the Wed as she felt unwell not the Tue as you've claimed.

PF was a permanent resident at OC.  Surely she would know what she heard and wear the sound originated from?  If not MM who do you think the crying originated from?  If not McCanns entering who do you think it was?

Are you referring to the ‘mystery couple’ entering 5A?

[Holly Goodhead]

And yet, her husband Matt said she stayed in on the evening of 1 May. I find it strange that if it was Madeleine crying for more than an hour, her two siblings not waking up, upset and also crying.

Who do you see as more reliable MO or RO?

Stages 3 and 4 of sleep are difficult to wake from.  We've been thru this before.  I uploaded the vid clip of GM carrying SM off the return flight to UK.  GM was talking into the microphone, the aircraft engines were running and various vehicles moving around and not a peep from little SM. 

People refuse to accept the science underlying various phenomena.