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Redblossom

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Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2013, 08:46:45 PM »
Don't even know what you are on about tbh but I read earlier that there's one in your camp who think Simon Cowell is the Anti Christ, but I guess that doesn't apply to everybody.


But Simon Cowell has never been involved in this case and I am sure the comment was not in relation to his involvement, but an off the cuff general comment, so not a good example for your argument


http://nigelnessling.wordpress.com/madeleine-and-rennes-le-chateau-part-3/

Here you go, by poster called vee8 on various pro forums/blogs
Would you agree that that post on that blog is the opinion of the person who wrote it? That he/she is allowed his/her freedom of opinion? Where does it state that she/he represents all the pro McCann's?

How do you draw parallels between groups of people on Facebook and Twitter who have organised a campaign against the McCann's with one persons opinion.

there is no parallel with one persons views and any group, you said it well, theres your answer
You have missed a crucial point which is - who have organised a campaign against the McCann's - in that post.

thats not what the discussion was about mostache, anyway, likeminded or newbies people joining a group is something thathappens every day everywhere, where is the campaign? Campaign to do what?


Offline Mrs. B

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2013, 08:47:10 PM »


a mannequin put up by a local 'artist' 365 days after Madeleine's disappearance - a stone's throw from Luz church -of all places

How tasteless and bizarre.

Jesus Christ, there are some odd people about, I think I'd be scared to live there....

Redblossom

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Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2013, 08:53:20 PM »
The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.

they, they, they, as said a million times before, the some they do not equal all they, and nothing you say will change that, in fact its quite insulting, also not all people post on twitter and facebook, and for the record when i was on facebook for a few weeks on that controversy group i did challenge lots of posters on their comments and correct their misconceptions, there a small number of core people who post objectionable  stuff day in day out, that goes for YOUR camp as well, why dont you go act as policeman if your so worried about it, alternatively you canjust accept that some people will post things you dont like and the freedom of the internet allows this and just ignore it, RATHER than USING it to beat others up with

Yes, of course you're such an angel, but even you sought to justify that vile creep Pillowcase's "gutted" comment - say no more.  I'm not engaging with you further tonight - I find you too irrational to reason with.  Goodnight.

Dont misquote me please if you dont mnd that is,  I did not defend it as I said, but offered a possible reason for it, and questioned the context, nothng irrational about that, what is irrational IMO is you and others sayng people who dont accwpt the mccanns story WANT this child to be dead, thats what is otally irrational,  bye then Martha
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« Last Edit: June 04, 2013, 08:55:54 PM by Redblossom »

Offline Mrs. B

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2013, 09:00:45 PM »
As far as I'm concerned, anyone trying to find any redeeming feature or valid explanation for the utterly disgusting behavior of that poster on twitter is on a losing streak. There is none.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2013, 09:06:46 PM by Mrs. B »

Offline Mo Stache

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2013, 09:01:41 PM »
Don't even know what you are on about tbh but I read earlier that there's one in your camp who think Simon Cowell is the Anti Christ, but I guess that doesn't apply to everybody.


But Simon Cowell has never been involved in this case and I am sure the comment was not in relation to his involvement, but an off the cuff general comment, so not a good example for your argument


http://nigelnessling.wordpress.com/madeleine-and-rennes-le-chateau-part-3/

Here you go, by poster called vee8 on various pro forums/blogs
Would you agree that that post on that blog is the opinion of the person who wrote it? That he/she is allowed his/her freedom of opinion? Where does it state that she/he represents all the pro McCann's?

How do you draw parallels between groups of people on Facebook and Twitter who have organised a campaign against the McCann's with one persons opinion.

there is no parallel with one persons views and any group, you said it well, theres your answer
You have missed a crucial point which is - who have organised a campaign against the McCann's - in that post.

thats not what the discussion was about mostache, anyway, likeminded or newbies people joining a group is something thathappens every day everywhere, where is the campaign? Campaign to do what?
It was what the discussion is about; the cult of personality vs the individual who doesn't subscribe to any cult or campaign.

Campaign - Work in an organized and active way toward a particular goal. The anti McCann campaign. For example the procuring of members to a certain facebook group or spreading propaganda to acquire signatures on a petition to have the McCann's arrested for child neglect, setting up of a foundation to have the McCann's prosecuted for the death of their daughter, pamphletting neighbourhoods and places of work associated with the McCann's and or their associates, a drive - not withstanding the Attorney Generals final report - to smear the McCann's; to spread misinformation and libel them each opportunity that presents itself. That campaign. 

AnneGuedes

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Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2013, 09:05:20 PM »
The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.
Martha, how are you so well informed about these "vile individuals", their tweets and social networks ? I've never met them, serendipity or not, moreover it never passed my mind to look for them, I avoid being disgusted ! You seem to chase them in order to despise them... Could it be that it helps you to feel virtuous ?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #66 on: June 04, 2013, 09:09:43 PM »
Don't even know what you are on about tbh but I read earlier that there's one in your camp who think Simon Cowell is the Anti Christ, but I guess that doesn't apply to everybody.


But Simon Cowell has never been involved in this case and I am sure the comment was not in relation to his involvement, but an off the cuff general comment, so not a good example for your argument


http://nigelnessling.wordpress.com/madeleine-and-rennes-le-chateau-part-3/

Here you go, by poster called vee8 on various pro forums/blogs
Would you agree that that post on that blog is the opinion of the person who wrote it? That he/she is allowed his/her freedom of opinion? Where does it state that she/he represents all the pro McCann's?

How do you draw parallels between groups of people on Facebook and Twitter who have organised a campaign against the McCann's with one persons opinion.

there is no parallel with one persons views and any group, you said it well, theres your answer
You have missed a crucial point which is - who have organised a campaign against the McCann's - in that post.

thats not what the discussion was about mostache, anyway, likeminded or newbies people joining a group is something thathappens every day everywhere, where is the campaign? Campaign to do what?
It was what the discussion is about; the cult of personality vs the individual who doesn't subscribe to any cult or campaign.

Campaign - Work in an organized and active way toward a particular goal. The anti McCann campaign. For example the procuring of members to a certain facebook group or spreading propaganda to acquire signatures on a petition to have the McCann's arrested for child neglect, setting up of a foundation to have the McCann's prosecuted for the death of their daughter, pamphletting neighbourhoods and places of work associated with the McCann's and or their associates, a drive - not withstanding the Attorney Generals final report - to smear the McCann's; to spread misinformation and libel them each opportunity that presents itself. That campaign.

Very well said!

Offline gilet

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2013, 09:16:37 PM »


and how do yu know the context of that tweet, what was said before and after? Isnt it possible they were thinking they didnt want her to be alive if she was some sex slave eg??? Not defending it, I dont know why they posted that,but its no worse if that was the case than some [ censored word ] sayng madeleines disappearance is a sign that  jesus is coming back to earth!! And kate and gerry are the chosen ones and setting out reasons why they were


Oh dear

It is far worse.

The former is a perfect example of someone posting something (which in any context) is sick and perverted, while the latter is probably the thought of a caring but misguided individual.

Offline gilet

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #68 on: June 04, 2013, 09:23:30 PM »
The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.
Martha, how are you so well informed about these "vile individuals", their tweets and social networks ? I've never met them, serendipity or not, moreover it never passed my mind to look for them, I avoid being disgusted ! You seem to chase them in order to despise them... Could it be that it helps you to feel virtuous ?

Please do not try to pretend that you are new to this case and have never delved into fora and other places previously or come across the evil morons who post sick abusive hate before.

In reply to the point you are making, it does not need a person to go seeking these warped individuals. They deliberately swamp any place where the McCann case is discussed and they think they can get away with their vile posting.

icabodcrane

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Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2013, 09:28:57 PM »
The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.
Martha, how are you so well informed about these "vile individuals", their tweets and social networks ? I've never met them, serendipity or not, moreover it never passed my mind to look for them, I avoid being disgusted ! You seem to chase them in order to despise them... Could it be that it helps you to feel virtuous ?

I'm with you Anne ...   why on earth would anyone seek out vile posts on twitter or facebook,  and then  repeat them elsewhere !


AnneGuedes

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Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2013, 09:34:04 PM »
The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.
Martha, how are you so well informed about these "vile individuals", their tweets and social networks ? I've never met them, serendipity or not, moreover it never passed my mind to look for them, I avoid being disgusted ! You seem to chase them in order to despise them... Could it be that it helps you to feel virtuous ?

I'm with you Anne ...   why on earth would anyone seek out vile posts on twitter or facebook,  and then  repeat them elsewhere !
Thank you so much, Icabodcrane ! I was feeling lonely...

Offline faithlilly

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2013, 09:42:48 PM »
Hmm - someone who thinks Madeleine is the second coming versus someone who would be gutted if she was found alive. The former view is certainly a bit strange, the latter view is just downright evil though, wouldn't you agree?

I would Martha.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2013, 09:45:51 PM »
The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.
Martha, how are you so well informed about these "vile individuals", their tweets and social networks ? I've never met them, serendipity or not, moreover it never passed my mind to look for them, I avoid being disgusted ! You seem to chase them in order to despise them... Could it be that it helps you to feel virtuous ?

Excellent post Anne  8@??)(

Strange behaviour indeed !
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2013, 09:46:40 PM »
Quite simply because there are certain issues at stake here, one of them being breaching ECHR laws. Which is a recurring theme with those who call themselves McCann skeptics, they tend to be very vocal about their own human rights while completely disregarding the rights of others. Which is exactly what Judge Tugendhat mentioned in his sentencing of one Mr. Anthony Bennett recently.

AnneGuedes

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Re: the cult of personality
« Reply #74 on: June 04, 2013, 09:52:02 PM »

Strange behaviour indeed !
I don't think so, Faithlilly. I think it's difficult to build one's own values in this pseudo communication world. Define enemies is easier, however imaginary they can be. We're longing for truth, we all do. But what is truth ?