the cult of personality

[Mo Stache]

The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.

Martha, how are you so well informed about these "vile individuals", their tweets and social networks ? I've never met them, serendipity or not, moreover it never passed my mind to look for them, I avoid being disgusted ! You seem to chase them in order to despise them... Could it be that it helps you to feel virtuous ?

I doubt Martha intentionally seeks out these posts, as you imply she does. I would hazard a guess you replied the way you did to her, to help yourself feel virtuous. 

[Mrs. B]

The reason why Anti McCanns get tarred with the same brush as these vile individuals we have mentioned is that they very rarely protest about the vile shite that these deranged commentators write and tweet.  Oh no, quite the opposite - they praise and applaud instead and follow them assiduously on twitter and FB - implicit approval in other words.  That tells you all you need to know.

Martha, how are you so well informed about these "vile individuals", their tweets and social networks ? I've never met them, serendipity or not, moreover it never passed my mind to look for them, I avoid being disgusted ! You seem to chase them in order to despise them... Could it be that it helps you to feel virtuous ?

I doubt Martha intentionally seeks out these posts, as you imply she does. I would hazard a guess you replied the way you did to her, to help yourself feel virtuous.

It's not actually regarded as being "virtuous" to respect laws, it's generally a requirement in most societies today.

[gilet]

Anyone who posts or implies that the vile posts of certain anti-McCanns have to be sought out is either deluding themselves or playing games with truth.

No independent reader of this forum would ever believe such utter guff.

The reality is that any place where the McCanns are discussed, where no moderation is done or moderation is biased in favour of the anti McCanns such as on the forum Bennett was/is admin of or Facebook and Twitter, finds trolls and idiots purveying their libel and lies about the McCanns. These libels and lies include utterly evil comments and allegations about the subject of Madeleine and her parents.

[Mo Stache]

Anne. One doesn't have to be religious to be virtuous.

[AnneGuedes]

Anne. One doesn't have to be religious to be virtuous.

Virtue and religion are tied. Read and compare the stories of Juliette  (Vice Amply Rewarded) versus Justine (Good Conduct Well-Chastised).

[Mo Stache]

Virtue and religion are tied. Read and compare the stories of Juliette  (Vice Amply Rewarded) versus Justine (Good Conduct Well-Chastised).

People of faith do not have a monopoly on virtue.

[AnneGuedes]

People of faith do not have a monopoly on virtue.

I would say that religious people don't have the monopoly of spirituality.

[registrar]

Virtue and religion are tied. Read and compare the stories of Juliette  (Vice Amply Rewarded) versus Justine (Good Conduct Well-Chastised).

Hmm they are not mutually exclusive - whether 'tied' will be an entire new thread.

I know one or two things about the monotheistic religions, Christianity, Judaism and Islam

My basic understanding being, that they all set out a codex for followers to abide by.

A good Samaritan is a good Samaritan - whether his/her name might be Himza, Karl or Joshua.

Of course as an atheist, the concept of religion might be anathema - but I know plenty of atheists - who

are splendid Samaritans - or to take it out of it's biblical context - decent, caring human beings.

Something we should all strive for.

Soap box packed away for the night.

[gilet]

People of faith do not have a monopoly on virtue.

Most certainly people of faith do not have a monopoly on virtue.

A most odd idea.

[Mo Stache]

Hmm they are not mutually exclusive - whether 'tied' will be an entire new thread.

I know one or two things about the monotheistic religions, Christianity, Judasim and Islam

My basic understanding being, that they all set out a codex for followers to abide by.

A good Samaritan is a good Samaritan - whether his/her name might be Himza, Karl or Joshua.

Of course as an atheist, the concept of religion might be anathema - but I know plenty of atheists - who

are splendid Samaritans - or to take it out of it's biblical context - decent, caring human beings.

Something we should all strive for.

Soap box packed away for the night.

An interesting read - Moral and Virtuous People Don’t Need God Or Mindless Religion
Written by Prabhakar Kamath
May 21, 2010
 http://nirmukta.com/2010/05/21/moral-and-virtuous-people-don%E2%80%99t-need-god-or-mindless-religion/

[sadie]

Virtue and religion are tied. Read and compare the stories of Juliette  (Vice Amply Rewarded) versus Justine (Good Conduct Well-Chastised).

Rubbish

Maybe that is the way with people who were Catholic; I wouldn't know

[sadie]

Hmm they are not mutually exclusive - whether 'tied' will be an entire new thread.

I know one or two things about the monotheistic religions, Christianity, Judasim and Islam

My basic understanding being, that they all set out a codex for followers to abide by.

A good Samaritan is a good Samaritan - whether his/her name might be Himza, Karl or Joshua.

Of course as an atheist, the concept of religion might be anathema - but I know plenty of atheists - who

are splendid Samaritans - or to take it out of it's biblical context - decent, caring human beings.

Something we should all strive for.

Soap box packed away for the night.

 

[registrar]

chacun à son goût

[Redblossom]

But Simon Cowell has never been involved in this case and I am sure the comment was not in relation to his involvement, but an off the cuff general comment, so not a good example for your argument


http://nigelnessling.wordpress.com/madeleine-and-rennes-le-chateau-part-3/

Here you go, by poster called vee8 on various pro forums/blogs

Would you agree that that post on that blog is the opinion of the person who wrote it? That he/she is allowed his/her freedom of opinion? Where does it state that she/he represents all the pro McCann's?

How do you draw parallels between groups of people on Facebook and Twitter who have organised a campaign against the McCann's with one persons opinion.


there is no parallel with one persons views and any group, you said it well, theres your answer
You have missed a crucial point which is - who have organised a campaign against the McCann's - in that post.


thats not what the discussion was about mostache, anyway, likeminded or newbies people joining a group is something thathappens every day everywhere, where is the campaign? Campaign to do what?

It was what the discussion is about; the cult of personality vs the individual who doesn't subscribe to any cult or campaign.

Campaign - Work in an organized and active way toward a particular goal. The anti McCann campaign. For example the procuring of members to a certain facebook group or spreading propaganda to acquire signatures on a petition to have the McCann's arrested for child neglect, setting up of a foundation to have the McCann's prosecuted for the death of their daughter, pamphletting neighbourhoods and places of work associated with the McCann's and or their associates, a drive - not withstanding the Attorney Generals final report - to smear the McCann's; to spread misinformation and libel them each opportunity that presents itself. That campaign.

there might be a  tiny campaign with a dozen or so people but nothng like what you are suggesting, on any masse scale, all those actions are disparate afaiaa and a total drop in any ocean, why make such a big deal of them, just ignore, no different to people writing to watchdog with their complaints, and NO, the discussion when i joined it was  not about the OP, but since you bring that into it, was the Op an OP to talk about these people? if so why not say so? To start with?

Again the fact that  some say people are n a cult following certain tweeters bloggers etc is quite ludicrous imo, you can and are influencedby wherever youpost, thats a fact, but only a sheep would not make up their own mind and there i no proof anyone has made up anyones minds for them, also why is not the mccanns FB not a cult? I mean, there is no dissention there, any is deleted pdq, a rule of cults is they allow none, I dont see theFB contro page not alowing dissenting posts, let alone trying and spending donated money to ban books and silencing people through the courts
 >@@(*&)

[Mrs. B]

Rubbish

Maybe that is the way with people who were Catholic; I wouldn't know

Yes, looks that way, can't say it is something that keeps me awake at night. But then, I was never threatened with purgatory, hell & all that jazz so I wouldn't know what that would be like.