If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Like what? Cleaners dont enter the flats at night to do anything at all, the sound of barrels being scraped again
 

there was a laundry man apparently collecting laundry in the evening

[Redblossom]

there was a laundry man apparently collecting laundry in the evening

not after 9 pm but around 6

[John]

If there had been two people involved one would have closed the shutter and the window so as to not attract unnecessary attention.  The fact that the shutter was left fully up and the window wide open to assist an exit would point to the involvement of only one person in the apartment.

[icabodcrane]

If there had been two people involved one would have closed the shutter and the window so as to not attract unnecessary attention.  The fact that the shutter was left fully up and the window wide open to assist an exit would point to the involvement of only one person in the apartment.

Good point

[DCI]

not after 9 pm but around 6

Red from last Mirror story.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-witness-saw-weird-1918572#ixzz2VSu3aucB

[DCI]

If there had been two people involved one would have closed the shutter and the window so as to not attract unnecessary attention.  The fact that the shutter was left fully up and the window wide open to assist an exit would point to the involvement of only one person in the apartment.

Why would they bother hanging around? Depends how quick they wanted to get out, surely.
If the McCann's were being watched, they would know anyone of the others could have gone back to check their children

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Red from last Mirror story.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-witness-saw-weird-1918572#ixzz2VSu3aucB

unfortunately it is different to his police statement which said that he finished at 18.00

but he was around

[Redblossom]

Red from last Mirror story.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-witness-saw-weird-1918572#ixzz2VSu3aucB

b........ised version of  the original story, BY said same paper btw, in sept of 07,  it was always 6pm this spotting the shocking english man with massive glasses, said man was Neil Berry, identidied by this laundry worker, requestioned by the LP! Elimonated afaiaw

Did you notice papers rechurn stories years later but change the details, funny that

Link to original story in sept 07, compare and contrast, they did exactly the same DCI with the story of the taxi driver who said he saw maddie with some aduots in his cab, original story was 8 pm or so may 3rd, when it was rehashed years later, it was now may 4th


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-madeleine-suspect-seen-in-stairwell-509604

[John]

Surely no cleaners would have had any excuse into an apartment at that time of night as the dirty linen would have been kept in a laundry cupboard?

[Benice]

Why would they bother hanging around? Depends how quick they wanted to get out, surely.
If the McCann's were being watched, they would know anyone of the others could have gone back to check their children

Also, as someone else pointed out - it could have been to make people think the window was the point of entry  to deliberately draw attention away from the fact that someone had a key to the front door. 

[Eleanor]

Surely no cleaners would have had any excuse into an apartment at that time of night as the dirty linen would have been kept in a laundry cupboard?

It might just have passed muster as a quick excuse if someone had been caught in the appartment.

[stephen25000]

Good idea, I think we should also ask the dogs, who died half way up the wall, in the car park, forensic check

Let's return to the fictional abductor/kidnapper and while we are at it, let's recourse to the person who originally said in this case.....

''Ask the dog's Sandra''

[icabodcrane]

Also, as someone else pointed out - it could have been to make people think the window was the point of entry  to deliberately draw attention away from the fact that someone had a key to the front door.

The fact that the patio doors were left unlocked was enough to dismiss the need for a key having been used  ...   no  need to open the window on that score

[sadie]

What is it then ... patio door or window ?

Definitely NOT the front door ?



What d'ya think Icabod?

[icabodcrane]

What is it then ... patio door or window ?

Definitely NOT the front door ?



What d'ya think Icabod?

As point of entry you mean  ?

I would say patio doors