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Offline Mrs. B

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #225 on: June 07, 2013, 11:10:31 AM »
Eh? We KNOW this, Anne, because they have INFORMED us all that this IS their opinion. Perhaps you missed it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-yard-case

"We are in a unique position seeking to draw together the three key strands of information about her disappearance," said Redwood.

He unequivocally dismissed the conspiracy theory – promoted by the original Portuguese lead detective Goncalo Amaral – that Madeleine's parents had anything to do with her disappearance.

He said detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger".

Offline faithlilly

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #226 on: June 07, 2013, 11:38:30 AM »
'He unequivocally dismissed the conspiracy theory – promoted by the original Portuguese lead detective Goncalo Amaral – that Madeleine's parents had anything to do with her disappearance.'

I'd appreciate it if anyone could provide a direct quote from Redwood in which he unequivocally dismisses the parents involvement.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #227 on: June 07, 2013, 11:56:17 AM »
Why? Whatever for? It's quoted directly from the article, surely direct quotes form such highly qualified journalists employed by the Guardian should be good enough for you. After all, that's how this journalist "interpreted" Andy Redwood at a press conference. We don't actually know exactly what Andy Redwood said at that press conference, we weren't there, the Journalist however was!

Ever heard of the expression: "What's good for the goose is good for the gander"?

Offline faithlilly

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #228 on: June 07, 2013, 12:05:16 PM »
Why? Whatever for? It's quoted directly from the article, surely direct quotes form such highly qualified journalists employed by the Guardian should be good enough for you. After all, that's how this journalist "interpreted" Andy Redwood at a press conference. We don't actually know exactly what Andy Redwood said at that press conference, we weren't there, the Journalist however was!

Ever heard of the expression: "What's good for the goose is good for the gander"?

I have Mrs B and thank you for confirming we are allowed 'impressions' and 'interpretations' when it suits.

Now back to that quote  >@@(*&)
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

ferryman

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #229 on: June 07, 2013, 12:06:06 PM »
'He unequivocally dismissed the conspiracy theory – promoted by the original Portuguese lead detective Goncalo Amaral – that Madeleine's parents had anything to do with her disappearance.'

I'd appreciate it if anyone could provide a direct quote from Redwood in which he unequivocally dismisses the parents involvement.

Scotland Yard is calling for the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance to be reopened, as detectives revealed there is evidence to suggest she might be alive.

Senior detectives within the Metropolitan police have been reviewing the Portuguese inquiry into the girl's disappearance for a year. On Wednesday – as the fifth anniversary of her disappearance approaches – police released an age-enhanced image of what she might look like now.

Madeleine, whose ninth birthday is on 12 May, disappeared from a Portuguese resort on 3 May 2007.

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said he believed she was abducted by a stranger, adding that there were 195 "investigative opportunities".

Redwood said he "genuinely" believed Madeleine could be alive, though the team is following an equal line of inquiry that she might now be dead.

The officer is leading a team of 37 detectives dedicated solely to carrying out an active investigative review of all the evidence in the case.

They are sifting through 40,000 pieces of material, and within them Redwood said officers have identified 195 historic investigative opportunities.

He said the team was developing new information about what happened to Madeleine five years ago, when she disappeared from her parents' holiday villa in Praia de Luz.

"We are currently developing material which we believe represents genuine new information," said Redwood.

He said officers had carried out a forensic analysis of the timeline of events, and had identified opportunities when the child could have been taken in a criminal act.

Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of "a criminal act by a stranger".

He appealed directly to anyone who might know where Madeleine was to contact the police.

The Met team is working with a Portuguese review team in Oporto, which is separate from the original inquiry and, said Redwood, was as committed as Scotland Yard to getting to the bottom of what happened to Madeleine.

"The Metropolitan police service wants the investigation reopened," he said. But he added that the decision had to be made by the Portuguese.

The Yard team is passing its information directly to the Portuguese review team. Redwood has visited Portugal seven times in the past year.

The review was set up last year on the fourth anniversary of the child's disappearance after Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, appealed to the prime minister, David Cameron, for Scotland Yard to look at the case.

Redwood said: "We have approached the material with a completely open mind. We have sought to put Madeleine McCann at the heart of everything we do."

AnneGuedes

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #230 on: June 07, 2013, 12:20:57 PM »
Scotland Yard is calling for the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance to be reopened, as detectives revealed there is evidence to suggest she might be alive.
Has someone an idea about that evidence ?

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said he believed she was abducted by a stranger, adding that there were 195 "investigative opportunities".

Redwood said he "genuinely" believed Madeleine could be alive, though the team is following an equal line of inquiry that she might now be dead.

"We are currently developing material which we believe represents genuine new information," said Redwood.


Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of "a criminal act by a stranger".
We still don't know whether his words were definitive or if "he believed".
He appealed directly to anyone who might know where Madeleine was to contact the police.
I reckoned they ignored "Madeleine", which seems to corroborate their discarding any involvement of Madeleine's parents.
Thanks, Ferryman ! Inspector Redwood is a great believer, I'm not expecting this from the Yard.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 12:26:20 PM by AnneGuedes »

Offline Mrs. B

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #231 on: June 07, 2013, 12:29:25 PM »
I have Mrs B and thank you for confirming we are allowed 'impressions' and 'interpretations' when it suits.

Now back to that quote  >@@(*&)

Journalists certainly are, in your case, however, having absolutely no credibility & a very bad case of over active imagination (of the worst kind) - debatable.

Offline faithlilly

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #232 on: June 07, 2013, 12:59:32 PM »
Journalists certainly are, in your case, however, having absolutely no credibility & a very bad case of over active imagination (of the worst kind) - debatable.

And long-serving police officers such as Paiva ?


Now that direct quote Mrs B ?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 01:03:09 PM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #233 on: June 07, 2013, 01:02:31 PM »
Click on the link, or is that too complicated for you? Direct quote from article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-yard-case

Offline faithlilly

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #234 on: June 07, 2013, 01:10:03 PM »
Click on the link, or is that too complicated for you? Direct quote from article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-yard-case

So no DIRECT quote then Mrs B ?

I see.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #235 on: June 07, 2013, 01:10:56 PM »
You mean THIS Paiva? The long serving honourable PJ officer? That one?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4186129/Maddie-cop-sent-sex-pics-to-Brit-woman.html

Maddie cop ‘sent sex pics’ to Brit woman

Offline Mrs. B

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #236 on: June 07, 2013, 01:12:11 PM »
It's a direct quote FROM the article, can you not read? Surely, you understand that a Guardian journalist has a lot more credibility than you will ever have?

Offline south of the river

Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #237 on: June 07, 2013, 01:23:50 PM »
So no DIRECT quote then Mrs B ?

I see.

I know that newspapers are not known for total accuracy , but when a broadsheet gives a direct quote and attributes said quote to a serving police officer then you can pretty well take it as read.

If the paper was making it up or speculating they would use lines like a   "  spokesman " or " sources close " - in this article they have not done so,

I think that  the question be would be is he correct or not rather than did he say it

AnneGuedes

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #238 on: June 07, 2013, 01:52:31 PM »
You mean THIS Paiva? The long serving honourable PJ officer? That one?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4186129/Maddie-cop-sent-sex-pics-to-Brit-woman.html

Maddie cop ‘sent sex pics’ to Brit woman
Berk ! Mrs. B, don't incite me to lose my respect for you, please.

icabodcrane

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #239 on: June 07, 2013, 03:10:14 PM »
I think it is important to remember Redwood made his comments over a year ago, when, as he acknowledged, Scotland Yard had only reviewed a quarter of the material available to them

The recently retired policeman who had been in overall charge of the case  ( forgotten his name )  made no such conclusion