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AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2013, 01:05:46 AM »
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AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2013, 01:06:03 AM »

AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2013, 01:12:41 AM »
It's in the file. Actually Prof Harrison MBE left  3 reports.

Offline Chinagirl

Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2013, 01:13:00 AM »
You are wrong about them having a curriculum (wrong word I am afraid)- history more likely is what you meant- of "200 signaling situations without fail"  This is not what Mr Grime said- it is a myth. Check the files.

In many previous cases Eddie and Keela had alerted and no confirmatory evidence was found- and this continued to be the case on Jersey.

To repeat, Grime never claimed 200 correct and confirmed identifications of cadaver odor.

It was a Bennett construct.  An idée fixe of his, actually ...
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AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2013, 01:14:22 AM »
Stop implicating the McCanns in the disapperance of Madeleine then!
This is an epiphenomenon that doesn't interest me.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2013, 01:15:51 AM »
Intelligence is considerably less convincing than evidence, at least in any English Dictionary.
That's what I said : no evidence, just intelligence. But combined with the Portuguese dogs' findings, very revealing..

AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2013, 01:23:09 AM »
It was a Bennett construct.  An idée fixe of his, actually ...
Thanks, Chinagirl, for showing that idée fixe belongs to the English language !

AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2013, 03:48:43 AM »
This report?

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Where does that support your argument?
Don't be lazy and read more : 3 reports !

AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2013, 03:56:06 AM »
Cites then please.

I asked for cites and you ignored it.

I ask again for cites and references.
Start studying the files for a change.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2013, 05:05:03 AM »
No. The rules of debate are that if a person says 'X' is the case, it is up to that person to provide the cite. Saying 'Look it up yourself' is equivalent to admitting that you have lost the argument. Which you have.
No, the basic rule for a debate to occur is a theme. You're obviously not interested in debating, you compare those ridiculous humans to ants, red ants you said, you disturb them in order to despise them. Pretty activity for a retired nurse ! And on top of this you don't give a damn for Madeleine McCann and what happened to her !

Offline Carana

Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2013, 09:39:59 AM »
Ok. That's your belief, which I respect.
My interpretation is totally different - even though the FSS succeeded in sending a second report that contradicted the first preliminary one - the fact that the dogs signaled cadaver scent and the presence of blood in a place where never happened a death is, to say the least, alarming.

If by the "preliminary one" you are referring to Lowe's email to Stu Prior, in what way does it contradict the "second report" if by that you mean the formal one?

Offline Chinagirl

Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2013, 09:47:18 AM »
Only irrational persons could imply that there was any interest on finding the McCann guilty.
For Portugal it would be more comfortable to consider as true the fantasy created by the McCann. A strange abductor that takes a little child away would, politically, be much easier to deal with than trying to find out the truth about a shameful crime committed inside our borders.
If it wasn't for a bunch of motivated policemen, the politicians would have traded the life of a child by the commodity of allowing it to go unquestioned, as was the wish of UK´s prime ministers (Blair, Gordon and now Cameron).

I think it is far more likely to have been the other way round.  Given how much British holiday-makers contribute to the Portuguese economy, it would have been an unfortunate outcome to find that an abductor had taken a holiday-maker's child from her bed, particularly if it had turned out to be a Portuguese abductor.  Much better to put the emphasis of the investigation on the parents of the child - to imply (as happened in fact) that these British parents had done away with the British child.  Not Portugal's problem.

If political pressure was ever brought to bear, it is more likely to have come from Portugal than from Britain. 
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stephen25000

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Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2013, 09:48:38 AM »
I think it is far more likely to have been the other way round.  Given how much British holiday-makers contribute to the Portuguese economy, it would have been an unfortunate outcome to find that an abductor had taken a holiday-maker's child from her bed, particularly if it had turned out to be a Portuguese abductor.  Much better to put the emphasis of the investigation on the parents of the child - to imply (as happened in fact) that these British parents had done away with the British child.  Not Portugal's problem.

If political pressure was ever brought to bear, it is more likely to have come from Portugal than from Britain.


and your evidence for this is................

Cite please.

Offline Chinagirl

Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2013, 09:52:31 AM »
No evidence needed - just expressing an opinion, as the poster Luz did.
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Offline Carana

Re: Could the cadaver scent have been planted?
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2013, 09:54:17 AM »
Only irrational persons could imply that there was any interest on finding the McCann guilty.
For Portugal it would be more comfortable to consider as true the fantasy created by the McCann. A strange abductor that takes a little child away would, politically, be much easier to deal with than trying to find out the truth about a shameful crime committed inside our borders.
If it wasn't for a bunch of motivated policemen, the politicians would have traded the life of a child by the commodity of allowing it to go unquestioned, as was the wish of UK´s prime ministers (Blair, Gordon and now Cameron).

I'm not following the logic. Wouldn't a stranger abduction also be a shameful crime committed within Portugal's borders?