So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?

[icabodcrane]

I think this thread shoud include a welcome

...  to the nit-pickers convention 

Don't you  realise how petty and bitter this constant  sniping at  Anne is making you look   ? 

[AnneGuedes]

Can Anne Guedes state with 100% certainty whether the translation referred to in court was translation from or translation of the book?

Unless she can do so there is no point in discussing whether there was a translation available or not.

And remember it is an offence to misrepresent what a person says in court.

For the sake of serenity, buy yourself a ticket, pop up anonymously at the court to try and catch me red-handed !

[Benice]

I think this thread shoud include a welcome

...  to the nit-pickers convention 

Don't you  realise how petty and bitter this constant  sniping at  Anne is making you look   ?

I don't see any sniping at Anne.  Don't you agree that there is a great deal of contraversy about this subject at the moment?    A witness has been accused of lying in some quarters.   What is wrong with trying to clarify the situation?

[AnneGuedes]

"They read the book when I sent them the translation that was on internet in August 2008"
I checked because I hate the idea people doubt if I can help it, which in this case I anyhow doubt..
Bold words are verbatim in English in my notes.

[icabodcrane]

For the sake of serenity, buy yourself a ticket, pop up anonymously at the court to try and catch me red-handed !

I don't see that happening Anne

I think the battle-lines have beenn drawn   ...  you and John spent many hours of your own time to bring us exclusive information  ...  whilst the snipers sit at their computers, fuming at the uncensored truth being shared,  picking away at 'imagined'  inacurracies in your work

[AnneGuedes]

I don't see that happening Anne

I think the battle-lines have beenn drawn   ...  you and John spent many hours of your own time to bring us exclusive information  ...  whilst the snipers sit at their computers, fuming at the uncensored truth being shared,  picking away at 'imagined'  inacurracies in your work

Thank you for your support, Icabodcrane. I find it normal believers wonder whether I biased (perhaps even unconsciously) the reports. Why should a sceptic do that though ?

[DCI]

A few more links to the book being translated in July 2008.
Some interesting reads on link.

"The Truth of the Lie": Release of Gonçalo Amaral's Book on the Maddie Case with Hot Revelations SIC 
 
23 July 2008
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation

"Madeleine died in the apartment" Correio da Manhã
 
23 July 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
 
Pre-publication
 
'CM' [Correio da Manhã] today starts the exclusive publication of excerpts from the book by Gonçalo Amaral, who believes that Madeleine McCann died inside the apartment at Praia da Luz. The episode of the holidays in 2005, in Mallorca – which raises suspicions about a friend of the couple – and the DNA results are the first parts.


Maddie died in the bedroom and the abduction was staged Jornal de Notícias
 
23 July 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
 
On the day before the book "Maddie, The Truth About The Lie" is published, JN anticipates some of the revelations made by the author, Gonçalo Amaral. The former inspector from the Polícia Judiciária who was initially responsible for the investigation, believes that the English girl died in the bedroom and that the parents are not exempt of guilt.

Comparisons between the PJ's report and Gonçalo Amaral's book PortugalDiário (links appear in 3 parts, as below)
 
29 July 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id164.html

[faithlilly]

A few more links to the book being translated in July 2008.
Some interesting reads on link.

"The Truth of the Lie": Release of Gonçalo Amaral's Book on the Maddie Case with Hot Revelations SIC 
 
23 July 2008
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation

"Madeleine died in the apartment" Correio da Manhã
 
23 July 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
 
Pre-publication
 
'CM' [Correio da Manhã] today starts the exclusive publication of excerpts from the book by Gonçalo Amaral, who believes that Madeleine McCann died inside the apartment at Praia da Luz. The episode of the holidays in 2005, in Mallorca – which raises suspicions about a friend of the couple – and the DNA results are the first parts.


Maddie died in the bedroom and the abduction was staged Jornal de Notícias
 
23 July 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation
 
On the day before the book "Maddie, The Truth About The Lie" is published, JN anticipates some of the revelations made by the author, Gonçalo Amaral. The former inspector from the Polícia Judiciária who was initially responsible for the investigation, believes that the English girl died in the bedroom and that the parents are not exempt of guilt.

Comparisons between the PJ's report and Gonçalo Amaral's book PortugalDiário (links appear in 3 parts, as below)
 
29 July 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id164.html

The McCanns lawyers were allegedly already translating the book so why would Wright a month later be sending them small sections of sceptics translations  ?

[ferryman]

Right the first time

Secrecy was breached.

Archiving August 2008

First copy of the book in someone's hand, July 2008

[Redblossom]

Right the first time

Secrecy was breached.

Archiving August 2008

First copy of the book in someone's hand, July 2008

Nope, archiving was in July 2008, 21st of the month, days before the publication of the book

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P17/17_VOLUME_XVIIa_Page_4649.jpg



The Mccanns lawyer wanted to sue Amaral for breach of secrecy, that was nearly four years ago, did that go by the wayside?

[icabodcrane]

To save me trawling back through the thread,  can someone please confirm

Has it been established which full translation of the book Michael Wright found on the internet,  and passed to the McCanns shortly after the book was published  ? 

[ferryman]

Each page of the process as it is laid out on mccannpjfiles carries this message:

This information belongs to the Ministério Público in Portimão, Portugal.
It was released to the public on 4 August 2008 in accordance with Portuguese Law

Which part of the fact that judicial secrecy was breached are you erroneously quarreling with and why?

[Redblossom]

To save me trawling back through the thread,  can someone please confirm

Has it been established which full translation of the book Michael Wright found on the internet,  and passed to the McCanns shortly after the book was published  ?

I dont think there was any so early. Just snippets.

[Redblossom]

Each page of the process as it is laid out on mccannpjfiles carries this message:

This information belongs to the Ministério Público in Portimão, Portugal.
It was released to the public on 4 August 2008 in accordance with Portuguese Law

Which part of the fact that judicial secrecy was breached are you erroneously quarreling with and why?

To prove it was breached you will have to prove that the secrecy law continues after archival (which you erroneously stated was in August 2008 but was in July) up until files are released. Can you do that? If so, you may have a point, albeit a petty one.

[icabodcrane]

I dont think there was any so early. Just snippets.

But Michael Wright told a Judge,  under oath,  that he read a translated copy of the book on the internet shortly after it was published ...  didn't he  ?