The Real Jeremy Bamber

[ISpyWithMyEye]

April didn’t say anything in her ‘ hybristophilia‘ post about Bamber using people?

I said he uses people, Nicholas, but that’s obvious going by all what people have written about him

I’ve seen some of the letters he’s written to women where he’s clearly manipulative, and trips himself up too. In one letter to a woman ( forgotten who now) he started off apologising for not writing sooner & wasted a whole page explaining why he hadn’t (overcompensating to make it sound truthful). At the end of the letter he said something which proved the first page was a total lie...

I read he brags how many letters he gets from women each week, and I bet he puts them in different piles, something like:

A) Reply quickly/tread carefully — smart woman

B) Reply within 2 weeks — test her out and dig

C) Reply whenever; a possible idiot

D) Possibly reply

E) Reply in desperation: lives in a council flat/rough area/on DSS

What I’m wondering is why he’s never seemed to talk about romance or sex? If he has, no-one’s ever mentioned it. Without sounding sexist, almost all men crave sex, and I’d be most surprised if out of all these women he hasn’t been attracted to one and gently led her into sex talk; asking her for provocative photos etc...nearly all men on the internet (even total strangers) will tell you you’re beautiful and how they’d love to meet you. I’m no fool — I know they tell all women that, probably. But all JB seems to talk about is HIMSELF.  The few letters I’ve seen he never asks them anything...it’s all him, him, him.

I don’t know how true the rumours are that he’s gay or bisexual, but it is possible he’s had relationships in prison, especially after 35 years. Maybe he’s no longer attracted to women? He certainly finds it easy to drop them with no regard at all.

My hunch is that the one woman he did truly desire was Sue Ford, and I wonder if part of that was that she was older than him and he was searching for a mother figure. His biological mother had “rejected” him in his mind, but we don’t know how heartbroken she was at possibly being forced to give him up. Then June took over and never showed either children real affection, so maybe that’s why he was subconsciously looking for a mother figure.

Whatever the circumstances, you can’t create a psychopath — so whatever his upbringing & with whom, he’d still be a psychopath and there’s no denying he’s thoroughly evil.

[Nicholas]

I don’t know how true the rumours are that he’s gay or bisexual, but it is possible he’s had relationships in prison, especially after 35 years. Maybe he’s no longer attracted to women? He certainly finds it easy to drop them with no regard at all

This is an extract from a report on ‘consensual and coercive’ sex in prisons

‘Gay and bisexual men reported that while they were “fairly” or “totally” open about their sexuality on the wing, they were discreet about their sexual activities and relationships.

They usually had sex in the cell of one of the participants or in the showers, during periods of association. Some men who shared cells had sex at night. When asked how many sexual partners interviewees had had in prison, numbers ranged from one to “about 30, 35”.

One heterosexual man said that he had had consensual sex with gay or bisexual prisoners “out of necessity”. He said he had resumed exclusively heterosexual relationships since leaving prison, and he added: “I’m completely straight; what happened then was just about having my sexual needs met, in a particular time and place, where I couldn’t get [heterosexual] sex.”
https://howardleague.org/news/prisonersexperiencesofsexinprison/

[Aunt Agatha]

Why are you questioning his private life or sexuality?

What he chooses to do with his life today or who he wishes to associate with is his business.  If you are concerned for his welfare, then I would suggest you write and tell him yourself.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It’s Poppy Ann Miller who appears to be the fantasist

‘I say all of this not to persecute her. Her own extended relatives and a wider community did enough of that when she was alive. It isn’t about apportioning blame and pointing the finger – but it is about establishing fact, and the fact is that contrary to the popular belief of 1985, Sheila was capable of harming her children..

That’s a sweeping statement considering Poppy never knew Sheila, and no-one EVER said she was capable of harming her children.

Disgraceful.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

This is an extract from a report on ‘consensual and coercive’ sex in prisons

‘Gay and bisexual men reported that while they were “fairly” or “totally” open about their sexuality on the wing, they were discreet about their sexual activities and relationships.

They usually had sex in the cell of one of the participants or in the showers, during periods of association. Some men who shared cells had sex at night. When asked how many sexual partners interviewees had had in prison, numbers ranged from one to “about 30, 35”.

One heterosexual man said that he had had consensual sex with gay or bisexual prisoners “out of necessity”. He said he had resumed exclusively heterosexual relationships since leaving prison, and he added: “I’m completely straight; what happened then was just about having my sexual needs met, in a particular time and place, where I couldn’t get [heterosexual] sex.”
https://howardleague.org/news/prisonersexperiencesofsexinprison/

Well, if heterosexual can have gay sex out of necessity, considering there were rumours that Jeremy was bisexual anyway, and Brett Collins alluded to them having had a “close affair”, I’d be most surprised if Jeremy hasn’t had flings/relationships with fellow prisoners.

I wonder what the women, some of whom have an infatuation with him think about that?

Mind you, if they can turn a blind eye to him shooting little boys dead, I s’pose they can also erase the thought of him passionately kissing a man and having sex with him...

[Nicholas]

I said he uses people, Nicholas, but that’s obvious going by all what people have written about him

I’ve seen some of the letters he’s written to women where he’s clearly manipulative, and trips himself up too. In one letter to a woman ( forgotten who now) he started off apologising for not writing sooner & wasted a whole page explaining why he hadn’t (overcompensating to make it sound truthful). At the end of the letter he said something which proved the first page was a total lie...

I read he brags how many letters he gets from women each week, and I bet he puts them in different piles, something like:

A) Reply quickly/tread carefully — smart woman

B) Reply within 2 weeks — test her out and dig

C) Reply whenever; a possible idiot

D) Possibly reply

E) Reply in desperation: lives in a council flat/rough area/on DSS

What I’m wondering is why he’s never seemed to talk about romance or sex? If he has, no-one’s ever mentioned it. Without sounding sexist, almost all men crave sex, and I’d be most surprised if out of all these women he hasn’t been attracted to one and gently led her into sex talk; asking her for provocative photos etc...nearly all men on the internet (even total strangers) will tell you you’re beautiful and how they’d love to meet you. I’m no fool — I know they tell all women that, probably. But all JB seems to talk about is HIMSELF.  The few letters I’ve seen he never asks them anything...it’s all him, him, him.

I don’t know how true the rumours are that he’s gay or bisexual, but it is possible he’s had relationships in prison, especially after 35 years. Maybe he’s no longer attracted to women? He certainly finds it easy to drop them with no regard at all.

My hunch is that the one woman he did truly desire was Sue Ford, and I wonder if part of that was that she was older than him and he was searching for a mother figure. His biological mother had “rejected” him in his mind, but we don’t know how heartbroken she was at possibly being forced to give him up. Then June took over and never showed either children real affection, so maybe that’s why he was subconsciously looking for a mother figure.

Whatever the circumstances, you can’t create a psychopath — so whatever his upbringing & with whom, he’d still be a psychopath and there’s no denying he’s thoroughly evil.

Suspect he used her like he used JM

He views people like objects - it’s all about power & control

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Are you so bored of life that all you can do is stoop to such a level as to question his private life or sexuality?

It really is None of your business what he chooses to do with his life today or who he wishes to associate with, other than it be a concern for his welfare, then I would suggest you write and tell him yourself.

You tear this man to pieces and your perceptions and views at times are really beyond the pale. It's embarrassing to read.

I’m not bored of life at all, Agatha.

I usually have a busy life and love socialising with friends and family, but like yourself and the rest of the world, I’m in lockdown at the moment, hence why I have time on my hands to contribute more than I’d normally do.

This thread is about Jeremy Bamber and the heinous crimes he committed, so obviously various aspects of his life, lifestyle, doings are discussed. It is a discussion board, and some people find it interesting what makes evil people tick.

And I don’t know why it should bother you who he has relationships or sex with, be it men or woman, or both...you’re not in a romantic relationship with him, so it shouldn’t bother you in the slightest. Indeed, as you appear to like him so much, you should be happy for him that he may be enjoying a close, passionate sex life in prison. Maybe that’s why he comes across quite chirpy — he might be having a ball for all you know.

[Nicholas]

Well, if heterosexual can have gay sex out of necessity, considering there were rumours that Jeremy was bisexual anyway, and Brett Collins alluded to them having had a “close affair”, I’d be most surprised if Jeremy hasn’t had flings/relationships with fellow prisoners.

I wonder what the women, some of whom have an infatuation with him think about that?

Mind you, if they can turn a blind eye to him shooting little boys dead, I s’pose they can also erase the thought of him passionately kissing a man and having sex with him...

Maybe Bamber is the author of this https://jeremybamber.org/the-inheritance-issue/

“Homophobia

Information on this web site was first uploaded to the internet in December 2011

1980’s attitudes towards Homosexuality

Who’s ‘idealisations’ do they represent; or was there more than one contributor?

‘Even if Jeremy Bamber were a self confessed homosexual it remains to be seen how this connects with the tragedies at White House Farm. As recently as 2004 Jeremy was depicted in a documentary as a homosexual and a transvestite on a tractor. It is clear that questions over Jeremy’s sexuality have persistently been used to persecute him and government bodies set up to regulate this have done nothing.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Suspect he used her like he used JM

He views people like objects - it’s all about power & control

Oh, absolutely.

But I think he desired her more than he did JM, somehow.  He doesn’t feel emotions, obviously, but I feel he desired SF sexually. And yes, he was using her for that.

[G-Unit]

A while back you said they couldn’t even detect DNA in 1985, and now you’re quoting court documents which prove June’s DNA was inside the silencer...

The only reason they couldn’t absolutely prove Sheila’s was, is due to what I’ve previously explained to you in the simplest possible way

They only found 13 of Sheila’s markers, which weren’t enough to categorically prove it was — it suggested it was.

Again, I repeat for the last time, they later discovered SEVENTEEN of Sheila’s markers in that same blood flake, which was categoric proof it WAS Sheila’s blood. What don’t you understand about that?

See if you can understand and remember this;

At the date of the investigation into this case DNA testing was not available for consideration of the source of body fluids. Hence the blood samples and blood staining was not subjected to such testing and was only subjected to the much less sensitive blood group testing to which we have already referred.
http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html (item 476) 2002 Appeal

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m not bored of life at all, Agatha.

I usually have a busy life and love socialising with friends and family, but like yourself and the rest of the world, I’m in lockdown at the moment, hence why I have time on my hands to contribute more than I’d normally do.

This thread is about Jeremy Bamber and the heinous crimes he committed, so obviously various aspects of his life, lifestyle, doings are discussed. It is a discussion board, and some people find it interesting what makes evil people tick.

And I don’t know why it should bother you who he has relationships or sex with, be it men or woman, or both...you’re not in a romantic relationship with him, so it shouldn’t bother you in the slightest. Indeed, as you appear to like him so much, you should be happy for him that he may be enjoying a close, passionate sex life in prison. Maybe that’s why he comes across quite chirpy — he might be having a ball for all you know.

Or even two.

[Nicholas]

Are you so bored of life that all you can do is stoop to such a level as to question his private life or sexuality?

It really is None of your business what he chooses to do with his life today or who he wishes to associate with, other than it be a concern for his welfare, then I would suggest you write and tell him yourself.

You tear this man to pieces and your perceptions and views at times are really beyond the pale. It's embarrassing to read.

Why are you embarrassed ?

[G-Unit]

Are you so bored of life that all you can do is stoop to such a level as to question his private life or sexuality?

It really is None of your business what he chooses to do with his life today or who he wishes to associate with, other than it be a concern for his welfare, then I would suggest you write and tell him yourself.

You tear this man to pieces and your perceptions and views at times are really beyond the pale. It's embarrassing to read.

I agree completely. It's illuminating as to the contents of some people's minds, but has no bearing on the case whatsoever.

[Nicholas]

Or even two.

Suspect it’s a lot more than two

“When asked how many sexual partners interviewees had had in prison, numbers ranged from one to “about 30, 35”.

How many ‘hetrosexual’ men are going to admit to anyone they had sex with Bamber?

[Holly Goodhead]

Suspect it’s a lot more than two

“When asked how many sexual partners interviewees had had in prison, numbers ranged from one to “about 30, 35”.

How many ‘hetrosexual’ men are going to admit to anyone they had sex with Bamber?

I think Vertigo Swirl was referring to Ispywithmybigeye's post that JB might be having more than one ball in prison!