The dogs.....

[ferryman]

What's the use of having Keela if superdog Eddie can do everything himself?

Does Morse react to blood?

[Carew]

You have heard them all before I'm sure, semen, seabass, trips to the morgue etc etc.

......None of which were present on any item in the other apartments, then,...... causing the EVRD`s behaviour to change immediately, as it did on entry into 5A? No seabass, toenails, semen and so forth in those apartments?

[John]

As far as I can see it comes down to this.  If both dogs react chances are you have blood otherwise its anyone's guess.  8-)(--)

What are the three most common substances on children's clothes?  Urine, saliva and faeces.

[ferryman]

Eddie reacted to all manner of substances including cadaverine according to his handler so differentiating between them is an impossible task.

Not quite right.

Cadaverine is al constituent of pseudo-scents, which Grime says Eddie won't react to.

I don't believe Grime, but Grime seems to imply the opposite of what you suggest

[Carew]

As far as I can see it comes down to this.  If both dogs react chances are you have blood otherwise its anyone's guess.  8-)(--)

What are the three most common substances on children's clothes?  Urine, saliva and faeces.

Ah............back to the soiled nappies and sweaty sandals. Wouldn`t the EVRD be alerting to almost everything almost all the time?

[Wonderfulspam]

Ah............back to the soiled nappies and sweaty sandals. Wouldn`t the EVRD be alerting to almost everything almost all the time?

Like toilets for example.

Everytime the dog nears the basin 'woof', there's a dead person stuck in the u bend.

[Carew]

Like toilets for example.

I was just thinking that!..............The EVRD made no alerts in the 5A bathroom.......

[Carew]

and from Mr Grime`s report..........

"There were no alert indications from the remaining properties. I did however see the dog search in the kitchen waste bins. These contained meat foodstuffs including pork and did not result in any false alert response. "

[pathfinder73]

He never alerted in the other apartments or anywhere else to blood, saliva, faeces. Strange Huh! Like Eddie was some amateur and didn't know what he was alerting to.

"The dogs’ CV is impressive. Besides collaborating in hundreds of investigations, they passed the practical tests brilliantly at the FBI’s “Body Farm,” the only place in the world where human cadavers are used to simulate homicide scenarios and concealment of bodies."

[ferryman]

and from Mr Grime`s report..........

"There were no alert indications from the remaining properties. I did however see the dog search in the kitchen waste bins. These contained meat foodstuffs including pork and did not result in any false alert response. "

You'll also find from Grime's report that Eddie was involved in over 200 cases.

The true number is 37.

[Mr Gray]

He never alerted in the other apartments or anywhere else to blood, saliva, faeces. Strange Huh! Like Eddie was some amateur and didn't know what he was alerting to.

"The dogs’ CV is impressive. Besides collaborating in hundreds of investigations, they passed the practical tests brilliantly at the FBI’s “Body Farm,” the only place in the world where human cadavers are used to simulate homicide scenarios and concealment of bodies."

Quite simply..and very importantly...where are the independent tests to verify the alerts

[pathfinder73]

If they ID Smithman they will verify those cadaver alerts as corroborating evidence.

[jassi]

Quite simply..and very importantly...where are the independent tests to verify the alerts

Isn't that down to forensics ? The dogs just indicate

[John]

Martin Grime declares in his 'profile' provided to the Portuguese  authorities that Eddie alerts to human remains and body fluids including blood.   There is no way to determine what he has alerted to unless CSI find material evidence.

Since only blood was identified in any of his alerts in the Madeleine case it cannot be in any way inferred that what he alerted to was human remains, a cadaver or cadaver scent. 


www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

[stephen25000]

Martin Grime declares in his 'profile' provided to the Portuguese  authorities that Eddie alerts to human remains and body fluids including blood.   There is no way to determine what he has alerted to unless CSI find material evidence.

Since only blood was identified in any of his alerts in the Madeleine case it cannot be in any way inferred that what he alerted to was human remains, a cadaver or cadaver scent. 


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Neither can it be excluded.

It remains quite possible that the dogs did indicate what some are unprepared to countenance.