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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #345 on: June 11, 2014, 09:36:47 AM »
Clarence Mitchell publicly stated that their lawyers would block it.
OK, then please link to this statement so we can read it ourselves.

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #346 on: June 11, 2014, 09:39:24 AM »
The McCann's and their friends prevented it [re-examination of the timeline] from happening.

Clearly that's not true.

The reconstitution never happened.

And the timeline has been changed.

Backtracking now old bean, however the cat's out of the bag.

If SY have investigated the timelines of that evening and concluded there was a window of opportunity for abduction, the surely the PJ would have found the same window of investigation in the reconstruction.

Their refusal to take part and co-operate prevented the PJ from discovering the same window of opportunity in the timelines that SY appear to have found many years later.

It's utterly shocking that the end result of this refusal by the group has set the investigation back 7 years.

Offline Eleanor

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #347 on: June 11, 2014, 09:39:39 AM »
Clarence Mitchell publicly stated that their lawyers would block it.

So why did The Mccanns agree to go, and accept one of the suggested dates?

You have taken whatever Clarence Mitchell said, entirely out of context.

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #348 on: June 11, 2014, 09:40:48 AM »
OK, then please link to this statement so we can read it ourselves.

there you go:

6 April 2008 12:00 AM
 
By Sunday People

The cloud of suspicion hanging over Kate and Gerry McCann is set to be sensationally lifted by Portuguese police.

The couple's status as formal suspects - arguidos - in the disappearance of their four-year-old daughter Madeleine is about to be dropped, The People can reveal.

The dramatic move will follow a comprehensive review of the case which will be completed within weeks.

But the McCanns will not be cleared until after May 8 - five days after the first anniversary of Maddie's disappearance when the couple had hoped to be back in Portugal to boost the search.

A highly-placed Portuguese legal source told The People last night: "I can confirm a review of the case will be concluded next month.

"It may well be the case that Kate and Gerry's arguido status is about to be dropped."

A family friend of the McCanns said Kate and Gerry were "greatly encouraged" by these developments.

The couple had repeatedly pleaded for their arguido status to be lifted so they could concentrate on their search for Maddie.

Their lawyers have warned them not to return while they are still suspects.

A family source added: "Any announcement that Kate and Gerry are no longer being treated as suspects will be a massive weight off their shoulders.

"But there will still be considerable heartache for them as the timing means this will not be likely until after the first anniversary of Maddie's disappearance."

The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "If they returned now to Portugal it would be a distraction and would put pressure on police.

Their lawyers would block it anyway.


"But once their arguido status has been lifted, they will feel differently.

"They have discussed the possibility of returning but nothing has yet been agreed." Maddie went missing from the family's Algarve holiday flat in Praia da Luz on May 3 last year as her parents ate tapas nearby.

Kate - both 39-year-old doctors from Rothley, Leics - were made official suspects in September after months of interviews.

But despite immense pressure from investigators pushing for a confession, they have always maintained their innocence. An insider said: "It is great news that Kate and Gerry are finally set to be cleared.

"But at the same time it also shows the police have got no idea about what happened to Madeleine.

"It is almost a year since she disappeared and we still don't seem any closer to finding her."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kate-and-gerry-mccann-to-be-cleared-1651964
« Last Edit: June 14, 2014, 03:22:59 AM by John »

Offline Eleanor

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #349 on: June 11, 2014, 09:41:50 AM »
Backtracking now old bean, however the cat's out of the bag.

If SY have investigated the timelines of that evening and concluded there was a window of opportunity for abduction, the surely the PJ would have found the same window of investigation in the reconstruction.

Their refusal to take part and co-operate prevented the PJ from discovering the same window of opportunity in the timelines that SY appear to have found many years later.

It's utterly shocking that the end result of this refusal by the group has set the investigation back 7 years.

Scotland Yard checked The Creche Records.  Amaral could have done the same.  In which case he would have found the window himself.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #350 on: June 11, 2014, 09:43:03 AM »
Backtracking now old bean, however the cat's out of the bag.

If SY have investigated the timelines of that evening and concluded there was a window of opportunity for abduction, the surely the PJ would have found the same window of investigation in the reconstruction.

Their refusal to take part and co-operate prevented the PJ from discovering the same window of opportunity in the timelines that SY appear to have found many years later.

It's utterly shocking that the end result of this refusal by the group has set the investigation back 7 years.
So - any reason why the PJ couldn't have arrived at the same conclusion as SY did, without recourse to a reconstruction? 

Alfred R Jones

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #352 on: June 11, 2014, 09:52:54 AM »
I must have missed something; when was the case solved and closed then? Or have you not used the correct word?
Or are you privy to the inner machinations of The MPS ? perhaps you will share with us this inside track if you would be so kind?
. the conclusion being that there was a window of opportunity for an abduction to take place - do keep up.

stephen25000

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #353 on: June 11, 2014, 09:59:56 AM »
. the conclusion being that there was a window of opportunity for an abduction to take place - do keep up.

Where has accidental death in the apartment been dismissed ?

and where has abduction been proved ?

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #354 on: June 11, 2014, 10:04:45 AM »
So - any reason why the PJ couldn't have arrived at the same conclusion as SY did, without recourse to a reconstruction?

What difference does it make how they came to the same conclusion, they would have come to the same conclusion though, wouldn't they because after all the reconstitution would in essence have been a forensic anyalsis of the witnesses statements and timelines.

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #355 on: June 11, 2014, 10:05:48 AM »
Nothing in there about them refusing to take part in a reconstruction.

What part of:

"If they returned now to Portugal it would be a distraction and would put pressure on police.Their lawyers would block it anyway.But once their arguido status has been lifted, they will feel differently."

Don't you understand?

Offline Eleanor

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #356 on: June 11, 2014, 10:11:38 AM »
What difference does it make how they came to the same conclusion, they would have come to the same conclusion though, wouldn't they because after all the reconstitution would in essence have been a forensic anyalsis of the witnesses statements and timelines.

Creche Records?  It was all there from Day One if only Amaral had bothered to look.  Or ordered someone else to look.  Him only being The Coordinator.

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #357 on: June 11, 2014, 10:12:49 AM »
So why did The Mccanns agree to go, and accept one of the suggested dates?

You have taken whatever Clarence Mitchell said, entirely out of context.

No, i really haven't.

Offline Eleanor

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #358 on: June 11, 2014, 10:23:39 AM »
Questions previously answered in other posts.

Do keep up.

No they weren't.  The McCanns did agree to a date on which to return.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #359 on: June 11, 2014, 10:25:28 AM »
Now there's me thinking that the purpose of the reconstitution as requested by the PJ was to test the veracity of the statements made by the Tapas 9 relating to events between about 20:30 and 22:00 on May 3rd 2007.
What a silly Billy I am.
You obviously haven't been following this discussion and have seen an opportunity to jump in without  fully understanding the point being made, never mind - we all make mistakes.