Author Topic: Judge approves request by McCanns to obtain Amaral fiscal records from tax authorities.  (Read 11824 times)

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Offline Montclair

Judge doesn't trust Amaral to give honest account of his affairs so has ordered Portuguese tax officials to investigate him and report back. Full details of Amaral's financial affairs required in order to establish just how much Amaral will be ordered to pay.

Do you live inn a parallel universe? By the way, everyone involved has already provided the information on the financial details of the earnings from the book.
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Offline Eleanor

Do you live inn a parallel universe? By the way, everyone involved has already provided the information on the financial details of the earnings from the book.

I don't think anyone is too bothered about the earnings from the book.  It's the rest of Amaral's earnings that might be the problem.  And how much there is left.  Now that we don't know.

Offline Brietta

Do you live inn a parallel universe? By the way, everyone involved has already provided the information on the financial details of the earnings from the book.

You are mistaken, Montclair.
In January, Dr Amaral and the other defendants were instructed to provide details of the moneys made from the articles they had published about Madeleine.

Dr Amaral obviously has not complied with that instruction.

  -  SNIP  -
The libel trial has adjourned, but the judge has ordered Mr Amaral to reveal how much money he has earned from the book.
.3news.co.nz/McCanns-parents-address-libel-hearing/tabid/417/articleID/351984/Default.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FMvia+(3News+-+International+News)



"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Montclair

You are mistaken, Montclair.
In January, Dr Amaral and the other defendants were instructed to provide details of the moneys made from the articles they had published about Madeleine.

Dr Amaral obviously has not complied with that instruction.

  -  SNIP  -
The libel trial has adjourned, but the judge has ordered Mr Amaral to reveal how much money he has earned from the book.
.3news.co.nz/McCanns-parents-address-libel-hearing/tabid/417/articleID/351984/Default.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FMvia+(3News+-+International+News)

You are wrong, he and the others have alll provided the information requested. Perhaps, you should read less biased, twisted and untruthful news reports.

Offline faithlilly

From another  source.....


'     ''Judge - Do you recall when the book was first published and when you first heard about it?

Kate Healy - A few months after it was published.''

Really? A few months?

''Kate and Gerry McCann threaten legal action over Madeleine book

Kate and Gerry McCann have threatened legal action over the publication of an explosive account of the investigation into their daughter's disappearance by the former detective in charge of the case.

By Fiona Govan in Lisbon

8:59PM BST 23 Jul 2008''

The book was published on 24th July 2008. Prior to it's publication, the McCann press spokesman was briefing the media that:
"The libel lawyers who are representing Kate and Gerry and their friends are assessing every word of this book very closely, and they will not hesitate from taking legal action against Amaral if any passage requires it."

Yet Kate McCann said on oath that she first heard about it a few months after it was published.  '


Nice.

Economical with the truth, yet again.

Seems they are hanging themselves with their own words Stephen.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

You are wrong, he and the others have alll provided the information requested. Perhaps, you should read less biased, twisted and untruthful news reports.

The Judge continues instructing the scribe and states that the authors of the lawsuit - the McCann couple - have requested the court to solicit an official application to ATA [Autoridade Tributária Aduaneira] i.e. the Portuguese equivalent to the IRS, in order to obtain confidential fiscal information.

 The Judge Maria Emília de Melo e Castro authorized and ordered for the dispatch to be prepared “since it is essential to know, within the scope of the case being analysed here at the court, what are the eventual earnings” of the defendant Gonçalo Amaral regarding the sales of the book ‘Maddie, A Verdade da Mentira’.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/07/palacio-de-justica-8th-of-july-2014.html

Is that an 'unbiased' enough source for you, Montclair?
There is absolutely no doubt at all that you are ... mistaken ... when you say that Dr Amaral had submitted to the court's instruction to submit a record of his earnings from Madeleine.
Quite patently ... he had not.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

You are wrong, he and the others have alll provided the information requested. Perhaps, you should read less biased, twisted and untruthful news reports.

Ah, So The Judge is condoning a request for information that she already has?

Offline Mr Gray

You are wrong, he and the others have alll provided the information requested. Perhaps, you should read less biased, twisted and untruthful news reports.

Is this unbiased enough for you...from a forum run by some of amarals staunchest supporters....you don't want to accept the truth as to what is really happening in this trial.......

The judge finally clarifies what was her first point: the plaintiffs had asked for information about the financial situation of GA on the 6th of January but didn't obtain it, Dra Isabel Duarte having requested on the 26th of June a Court's order for the Autoridade Tributária e Aduaneira (HM Revenue and Customs) to disclose confidential documents concerning GA.

The judge decides to grant this request, which was opposed only by the Guerra&Paz lawyer who finds it unnecessary and increasing the delay up to the end of this trial. The plaintiffs have ten days to obtain the documents and release them to the tribunal.

Offline jassi

Is this unbiased enough for you...from a forum run by some of amarals staunchest supporters....you don't want to accept the truth as to what is really happening in this trial.......

The judge finally clarifies what was her first point: the plaintiffs had asked for information about the financial situation of GA on the 6th of January but didn't obtain it, Dra Isabel Duarte having requested on the 26th of June a Court's order for the Autoridade Tributária e Aduaneira (HM Revenue and Customs) to disclose confidential documents concerning GA.

The judge decides to grant this request, which was opposed only by the Guerra&Paz lawyer who finds it unnecessary and increasing the delay up to the end of this trial. The plaintiffs have ten days to obtain the documents and release them to the tribunal.

What happens if they can't obtain the documents by that date?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

What happens if they can't obtain the documents by that date?

I have no idea...as they asked for these documents in January someone seems to be delaying things...the point I was making was Montclair was wrong to think all this negative information was coming from biased reporting

Offline jassi

It just seemed strange that it was the plaintiff that had to produce the document, (which they presumably don't have), rather than the defendant.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

It just seemed strange that it was the plaintiff that had to produce the document, (which they presumably don't have), rather than the defendant.

yes I noticed that...perhaps its a mistake...doesn't make much sense

Offline Eleanor

It just seemed strange that it was the plaintiff that had to produce the document, (which they presumably don't have), rather than the defendant.

The Plantiffs have been given permission to obtain the documents from The IRS.  The Defendant has singularly failed to do so, despite being asked six months ago.

Offline Montclair

Is this unbiased enough for you...from a forum run by some of amarals staunchest supporters....you don't want to accept the truth as to what is really happening in this trial.......

The judge finally clarifies what was her first point: the plaintiffs had asked for information about the financial situation of GA on the 6th of January but didn't obtain it, Dra Isabel Duarte having requested on the 26th of June a Court's order for the Autoridade Tributária e Aduaneira (HM Revenue and Customs) to disclose confidential documents concerning GA.

The judge decides to grant this request, which was opposed only by the Guerra&Paz lawyer who finds it unnecessary and increasing the delay up to the end of this trial. The plaintiffs have ten days to obtain the documents and release them to the tribunal.

If you read the second paragraph it states that Isabel Duarte requested a court order to obtain the information from the tax authorities. Therefore, it is not up to the defendents to obtain this information, it is done by a court order. The defendents have already provided their documents with regard to this question and now ID is asking for this court order in order to delay the trial even more.

Offline Eleanor

If you read the second paragraph it states that Isabel Duarte requested a court order to obtain the information from the tax authorities. Therefore, it is not up to the defendents to obtain this information, it is done by a court order. The defendents have already provided their documents with regard to this question and now ID is asking for this court order in order to delay the trial even more.

This doesn't make sense.  Why would The Judge make this order if she already has the information?