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ferryman

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Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2015, 12:43:56 PM »
I suggest you watch the full documentary - they said Kate Prout was strangled to death where Eddie alerted.

Good grief!

Before Prout's confession the prosecution at his trial hypothesised that Prout had murdered Kate by strangling her in the lounge.

That was based on Eddie's reaction in the lounge.

It turned out that Prout murdered Kate in the shooting lodge and buried her there.

Offline sadie

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2015, 07:32:18 PM »
It's not pork its pig.
Well we are told that cadavar dogs alert to human bodies after they have been badly burnt in fires.   They are tasked with finding the bodies, I believe.

Why shouldn't Eddie alert to Pork in its cooked state?   I believe he would.


Will be interesting to hear what Lord P comes up with.

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2015, 07:41:44 PM »
Well we are told that cadavar dogs alert to human bodies after they have been badly burnt in fires.   They are tasked with finding the bodies, I believe.

Why shouldn't Eddie alert to Pork in its cooked state?   I believe he would.


Will be interesting to hear what Lord P comes up with.

For goodness sadie.

I thought you had some basic training in science.

Offline sadie

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2015, 10:05:51 PM »
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Well we are told that cadavar dogs alert to human bodies after they have been badly burnt in fires.   They are tasked with finding the bodies, I believe.

Why shouldn't Eddie alert to Pork in its cooked state?   I believe he would.


Will be interesting to hear what Lord P comes up with
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Quote from: stephen25000 on Today at 07:41:44 PM
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For goodness sadie.

I thought you had some basic training in science.

Would you care to point out what I have said that is wrong?

Or are you just picking on everything that I say, per usual?


You avoided answering that question,   Would you care to point out what I said that was wrong?  I am waiting Stephen


stephen25000

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Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2015, 10:11:48 PM »
Quote from: sadie on Today at 07:32:18 PM


Quote from: stephen25000 on Today at 07:41:44 PM
Would you care to point out what I have said that is wrong?

Or are you just picking on everything that I say, per usual?


You avoided answering that question,   Would you care to point out what I said that was wrong?  I am waiting Stephen

Can you back up your claim that cooked meat emits the same compounds as raw flesh ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2015, 10:14:59 PM »
Can you back up your claim that cooked meat emits the same compounds as raw flesh ?
silly question...eddie reacts to dried blood and cadaverine...different compounds

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2015, 10:31:42 PM »
silly question...eddie reacts to dried blood and cadaverine...different compounds

Blood isn't a compound Dave.

and cadaverine is just one compound amongst many others emitted during decomposition.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2015, 07:36:33 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2015, 10:42:08 PM »
Blood isn't a compound Dave.

and cadavferine is just one compound amongst many others emitted during decomposition.

don't lecture on cadaverine when you can't even spell it

Offline sadie

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2015, 12:53:41 AM »
Can you back up your claim that cooked meat emits the same compounds as raw flesh ?
Dont twist it Stephen.

As you well know, I was comparing burnt, sadly roasted, human flesh to roasted cooked pig =Pork

If Eddie alerts to human flesh including when roasted / burnt then it seems logical that he will also alert to roasted/cooked pig = pork.

Access to pork is very common ... and I asked if a pork or bacon sandwich could create a situation that Eddie would alert to.


stephen25000

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Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2015, 07:32:04 AM »
Dont twist it Stephen.

As you well know, I was comparing burnt, sadly roasted, human flesh to roasted cooked pig =Pork

If Eddie alerts to human flesh including when roasted / burnt then it seems logical that he will also alert to roasted/cooked pig = pork.

Access to pork is very common ... and I asked if a pork or bacon sandwich could create a situation that Eddie would alert to.

I'm not twisting anything.

Now what is your scientific basis for any of this.

Simply provide the evidence.

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2015, 07:35:31 AM »
don't lecture on cadaverine when you can't even spell it

Now with your history of mis-spelling.

Don't preach.

Perhaps with your knowledge of science *&*%£ you might prefer Pentane-1,5-diammine or 1,5-Diaminopentane as alternative names. @)(++(*

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2015, 11:19:37 AM »
Dont twist it Stephen.

As you well know, I was comparing burnt, sadly roasted, human flesh to roasted cooked pig =Pork

If Eddie alerts to human flesh including when roasted / burnt then it seems logical that he will also alert to roasted/cooked pig = pork.

Access to pork is very common ... and I asked if a pork or bacon sandwich could create a situation that Eddie would alert to.

Did Eddie alert in the kitchen Sadie?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2015, 11:22:56 AM »
Did Eddie alert in the kitchen Sadie?

What did Eddie lift out of the food waste from one of the kitchens he was working?  was it a bacon sandwich? was it a chicken drumstick?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2015, 11:24:41 AM »
What did Eddie lift out of the food waste from one of the kitchens he was working?  was it a bacon sandwich? was it a chicken drumstick?

Maybe he was hungry. He never alerted.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2015, 11:47:05 AM »
Dont twist it Stephen.

As you well know, I was comparing burnt, sadly roasted, human flesh to roasted cooked pig =Pork

If Eddie alerts to human flesh including when roasted / burnt then it seems logical that he will also alert to roasted/cooked pig = pork.

Access to pork is very common ... and I asked if a pork or bacon sandwich could create a situation that Eddie would alert to.

I'm not sure that the distinction is between cooked and raw.

According to Grime, Eddie wouldn't react to foodstuffs "designed for human consumption" and therefore wouldn't be fazed by sniffing out a restaurant, for example.

However, there is a semantic argument over what is meant by "designed".

1. The processes used by slaughterhouses? (That doesn't make much sense to me, as the dogs don't need the entire carcass to react.)

Or

2. Fit for human consumption? (A rotting bit of pork that had been hanging around for weeks, cooked or not, is hardly fit / designed for human consumption.)