Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.

[Robittybob1]

If alerts in 5a, were, due to transference from the McCann's handling a cadaver at a later date... Then contamination would be everywhere... Not just a couple of places

Have you got that right?  Should it be "earlier date"?

[Robittybob1]

According to Grime in his statement as no remains were found the alerts cannot be corroborated.

Are you consistent?  I doubt if Grime said " the alerts cannot be corroborated".

[Mr Gray]

Are you consistent?  I doubt if Grime said " the alerts cannot be corroborated".

I've supplied the cites many times...

From memory.. As no remains were found the only alerts that can become corroborated are the CSI

[Mr Gray]

Have you got that right?  Should it be "earlier date"?

Later date meaning after 3 may... Yes I've got it right

[Robittybob1]

Later date meaning after 3 may... Yes I've got it right

OK I'll put that in to your original statement;

"If alerts in 5a, were, due to transference from the McCann's handling a cadaver at a later date... Then contamination would be everywhere... Not just a couple of places"

If alerts in 5a, were, due to transference from the McCann's handling a cadaver at a later date after 3 may... Then contamination would be everywhere... Not just a couple of places"

Still doesn't make sense, but I think I know what you mean.  This is what I think you are saying:
"If alerts in 5a were due to transference from the McCann's handling cadavers at an earlier date... Then cadaver contamination would be everywhere... Not just in a couple of places"

[faithlilly]

Its clear from the Shannon Matthews case that cadaver odour is capable of being transferred on items; how then can it be ruled that this didn't happen in MM's case?

At some stage grandparents lived at 5A; grandparents by definition on count down and heading towards D day.

Now I’ve heard most ridiculous excuses to explain the cadaver alerts in my long years of interest in this case but cadaver emitting grandparents are certainly a new one on me.

[Mr Gray]

OK I'll put that in to your original statement;

"If alerts in 5a, were, due to transference from the McCann's handling a cadaver at a later date... Then contamination would be everywhere... Not just a couple of places"

If alerts in 5a, were, due to transference from the McCann's handling a cadaver at a later date after 3 may... Then contamination would be everywhere... Not just a couple of places"

Still doesn't make sense, but I think I know what you mean.  This is what I think you are saying:
"If alerts in 5a were due to transference from the McCann's handling cadavers at an earlier date... Then cadaver contamination would be everywhere... Not just in a couple of places"

I'll explain later

[Robittybob1]

Later date meaning after 3 may... Yes I've got it right

They werer kicked out of 5A on the night of the 3rd so it can't be something done at a later date after the 3rd May 2007.

[Robittybob1]

SIL - you said recently "Assuming this is correct, woke and wandered has become a tad less likely."  I don't see the logic building up to that conclusion.

[Holly Goodhead]

Now I’ve heard most ridiculous excuses to explain the cadaver alerts in my long years of interest in this case but cadaver emitting grandparents are certainly a new one on me.

Apologies for the confusion I was meaning that grandparents are usually by definition older and therefore more likely to have passed away in 5A or items that were in contact with a corpse to have been present in 5A.

[The General]

Apologies for the confusion I was meaning that grandparents are usually by definition older and therefore more likely to have passed away in 5A or items that were in contact with a corpse to have been present in 5A.

How do we square away the dogs not alerting elsewhere? What's the chances of the dogs only alerting in the apartment a child went missing from, but none of the adjacent ones - the Grandparents rule has to be applied equally.

[Holly Goodhead]

I think John and his bunch of motley moderators need to get a grip and stop alienating the very people who keep this forum going.

That's a bit harsh imo.  We are after all unpaid volunteers.  How long do you think the forum would survive and/or went into meltdown if we didn't have some form of moderating?  Why not start up a thread as to how you think the forum could be improved for the benefit of the majority?

As I see it there are too few posters here who are able to remain neutral or prepared to see it from both sides ie McCanns v some unknown abductor.

[Mr Gray]

They werer kicked out of 5A on the night of the 3rd so it can't be something done at a later date after the 3rd May 2007.

No time for cadaver odour to develop ..posters have suggested the contamination was due to handling the cadaver at a later date... Contamination if clothes... No explanation fir contamination of 5 a

[The General]

That's a bit harsh imo.  We are after all unpaid volunteers.  How long do you think the forum would survive and/or went into meltdown if we didn't have some form of moderating?  Why not start up a thread as to how you think the forum could be improved for the benefit of the majority?

As I see it there are too few posters here who are able to remain neutral or prepared to see it from both sides ie McCanns v some unknown abductor.

I try to remain as impartial as I can, or at least try to see both sides.
But it would seem that certain 'supporter' mods are more than happy to moderate 'sceptics'. Which probably exacerbates the issue.

[Mr Gray]

That's a bit harsh imo.  We are after all unpaid volunteers.  How long do you think the forum would survive and/or went into meltdown if we didn't have some form of moderating?  Why not start up a thread as to how you think the forum could be improved for the benefit of the majority?

As I see it there are too few posters here who are able to remain neutral or prepared to see it from both sides ie McCanns v some unknown abductor.

How can you see it from both sides when you've said it's highly unlikely the McCann's are involved...

There's moderation and there over moderation