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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1410 on: July 08, 2019, 08:34:43 PM »
That snippet from the PJ Files could be another of those translation errors. That argument works both ways.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1411 on: July 08, 2019, 08:36:01 PM »
That snippet from the PJ Files could be another of those translation errors. That argument works both ways.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1412 on: July 08, 2019, 08:44:27 PM »
That snippet from the PJ Files could be another of those translation errors. That argument works both ways.

no it doesnt...in this instance we have the original portuguese the statement was made in..

in the mccanns case we do not have the original english


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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1413 on: July 08, 2019, 08:57:40 PM »
no...the rest of the evidence would have to stand on its own....

how fair is it that in the white middle class mccanns case the alerts are not evidential....but in the lane case ...black...poor they are. Having said taht I think there was enough evidence to convict him but without hearing everything its hard to be sure

It is possible his understanding of his dogs alerts has become deeper over time.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1414 on: July 08, 2019, 08:59:08 PM »
harrison..

A method previously employed on similar cases has been to use the below assets.
Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence


Is "intelligence" the same as meaningless?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1415 on: July 08, 2019, 09:04:10 PM »
It is possible his understanding of his dogs alerts has become deeper over time.

I know exactly  what caused the change of mind

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1416 on: July 08, 2019, 09:05:26 PM »
Is "intelligence" the same as meaningless?

It is as regards evidence

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1417 on: July 08, 2019, 09:10:47 PM »
It is as regards evidence
Is "intelligence" the same as meaningless?  It is as regards evidence." 

It is combinations like that that make my head hurt.

They see the un-sub's car on CCTV going toward the crime scene.  That is intelligence, and could be useful in a chain of circumstantial evidence.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1418 on: July 08, 2019, 09:16:03 PM »
Is "intelligence" the same as meaningless?  It is as regards evidence." 

It is combinations like that that make my head hurt.

They see the un-sub's car on CCTV going toward the crime scene.  That is intelligence, and could be useful in a chain of circumstantial evidence.

I would say seeing the car is evidence ..

The fact that when children are harmed in the majority of cases it's the parents... I would say is intelligence
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1419 on: July 08, 2019, 09:21:38 PM »
I would say seeing the car is evidence ..

The fact that when children are harmed in the majority of cases it's the parents... I would say is intelligence
Not every car driving past a crime scene is involved, so driving past a crime scene  can't be evidence.

"The fact that when children are harmed in the majority of cases it's the parents"  That is a fact.

I think this categorisation of things has its problems.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1420 on: July 08, 2019, 10:04:16 PM »
no it doesnt...in this instance we have the original portuguese the statement was made in..

in the mccanns case we do not have the original english


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Good answer!

« Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 11:15:43 PM by Robittybob1 »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1421 on: July 09, 2019, 01:11:16 AM »
no it doesnt...in this instance we have the original portuguese the statement was made in..

in the mccanns case we do not have the original english


you will have to do much better to catch me out
Had the PJ been asking these questions before the McCanns were made arguidos then I'd say it was more balanced.  But I found that the analysis document was produced in February 2008 , i.e. approx. 5 months later.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1422 on: July 09, 2019, 07:49:25 AM »
Is "intelligence" the same as meaningless?

The alerts in 5A were intelligence. Intelligence is useful information. In this case it led to a request for a search warrant for the McCann's villa and hired car issued on 1sr August 2007.
 https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/59-DA-27.htm
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1423 on: July 09, 2019, 08:03:39 AM »
The alerts in 5A were intelligence. Intelligence is useful information. In this case it led to a request for a search warrant for the McCann's villa and hired car issued on 1sr August 2007.
 https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/59-DA-27.htm

Where Eddie had a high old time running around like a lunatic and throwing Cuddle Cat in the air a couple of times without alerting.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1424 on: July 09, 2019, 08:06:32 AM »
The alerts in 5A were intelligence. Intelligence is useful information. In this case it led to a request for a search warrant for the McCann's villa and hired car issued on 1sr August 2007.
 https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/59-DA-27.htm

shall i change my post to the alerts are pretty useless but not entirely useless