Author Topic: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?  (Read 54914 times)

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #120 on: July 26, 2015, 06:57:36 PM »
 *&*%£
I have answered your questions.

You said;

The Fund is as transparent as the NSPCC (who also promise transparency and accountability), certainly as far as the accounts are concerned, from what I can see by comparing the two.

Have you a cite for the MF's refusal to name a fund manager please?



I then pointed out that the NSPCC give details of where their income comes from and asked you to provide comparable details from the Fund accounts. Clearly you cannot, because they're not there.

The Fund was asked this;

3) The official website states that 'an experienced Fund Administrator has been appointed to ensure the highest standards of transparency and accountability'. What is the name of the Fund Administrator and when and how was he/she recruited - was the job advertised?

This reply was given;

I have now been authorised to issue the following brief statement from Madeleine's Fund in response to your approach:

"Madeleine's Fund - Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited" fulfils all of its legal requirements through the filing and public declaration of all the information that is legally required of it. It exists to support the search for Madeleine and remains entirely dedicated to finding her through everything that it does, fully in line with its published objectives."

I appreciate that this does not directly address your specific questions but this is all that the Fund wishes, or needs, to state at present. I hope it is helpful nonetheless.

Kind regards,

Clarence
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id405.html

Where did these facts and figures come from?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/21-JAN9/MAIL-29-01-09FUND.jpg

Offline G-Unit

Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #121 on: July 26, 2015, 07:19:30 PM »
Well, the public have been told that the vast majority of the fund has gone "directly on search fees"

Thing is, with alot of these statements made, it can all boil down to "how one interprets it", ie that particular one might not actually mean that technically, but include  in it's meaning lots of other types of expenditure. IYSWIM.

@ GU
Why would any Fund not want to divulge who the manager is? Can't really think.....

I haven't the foggiest, but I know who did it from March 2009 to August 2012. It was a family friend who is in the PJ files. Perhaps that's why they preferred not to divulge her name. Her title was Campaign Manager and her duties were;

•   Liaising with and organising various groups of volunteers, to ensure projects are completed in a timely manner
•   Managing the Find Madeleine Website and implementing new ideas
•   Providing clerical and administrative support for The McCann’s
•   Organising meetings, and follow up with reports/minutes
•   Storing and maintaining information and compiling databases,
•   Sort, prioritise and respond to incoming correspondence
•   Stock control & fulfilment of internet orders
•   Maintain financial records and bank all donations received
•   Letter writing and mail merge
•   Providing copy for press and internet releases.
•   Conducting basic research
•   Fundraising: I have been involved in the organisation of major events in aid of the Fund. These have included-
A schools auction of promises
One Thousand Days Event at the Roof Garden London
Large scale fund raisers in Leicester, Liverpool and Glasgow
A Golf Day at the Park Hill Golf Club, Seagrave, Leicestershire
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #122 on: July 26, 2015, 07:29:54 PM »
I haven't the foggiest, but I know who did it from March 2009 to August 2012. It was a family friend who is in the PJ files. Perhaps that's why they preferred not to divulge her name. Her title was Campaign Manager and her duties were;

•   Liaising with and organising various groups of volunteers, to ensure projects are completed in a timely manner
•   Managing the Find Madeleine Website and implementing new ideas
•   Providing clerical and administrative support for The McCann’s
•   Organising meetings, and follow up with reports/minutes
•   Storing and maintaining information and compiling databases,
•   Sort, prioritise and respond to incoming correspondence
•   Stock control & fulfilment of internet orders
•   Maintain financial records and bank all donations received
•   Letter writing and mail merge
•   Providing copy for press and internet releases.
•   Conducting basic research
•   Fundraising: I have been involved in the organisation of major events in aid of the Fund. These have included-
A schools auction of promises
One Thousand Days Event at the Roof Garden London
Large scale fund raisers in Leicester, Liverpool and Glasgow
A Golf Day at the Park Hill Golf Club, Seagrave, Leicestershire
Are you aware what tends to happen online to people who support the McCanns and whose identities are known, or even to people who simply happen to be related the the McCanns by marriage? 

Offline Brietta

Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #123 on: July 26, 2015, 07:35:03 PM »
Are you aware what tends to happen online to people who support the McCanns and whose identities are known, or even to people who simply happen to be related the the McCanns by marriage?

Just one of the less savoury aspects of sceptics' demanding to know the answers to questions ... such as the transparency of the Fund.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #124 on: July 26, 2015, 07:36:17 PM »
Do they get murdered or something? Alf

Get a grip

Thanks GU

Offline mercury

Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #125 on: July 26, 2015, 07:37:07 PM »
deleted as misread the question
« Last Edit: July 26, 2015, 07:58:15 PM by mercury »

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #126 on: July 26, 2015, 07:40:18 PM »
Do they get murdered or something? Alf

Get a grip

Thanks GU
Murdered, in a manner of speaking.  It's called "online character assassination" - now tell me you've no idea what I'm talking about.   &%+((£

Offline mercury

Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #127 on: July 26, 2015, 07:45:52 PM »
Murdered, in a manner of speaking.  It's called "online character assassination" - now tell me you've no idea what I'm talking about.   &%+((£
I see no reason for anyone to character assassinate someone who is just doing their job! And seen no evidence this person ever was subjected to anything like that.
But you and many others spend an awful amount of time character assassinating the "asking questions brigade"

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #128 on: July 26, 2015, 07:50:38 PM »
I see no reason for anyone to character assassinate someone who is just doing their job! And seen no evidence this person ever was subjected to anything like that.
But you and many others spend an awful amount of time character assassinating the "asking questions brigade"
That is a direct accusation that will require some actual evidence.  So please provide evidence of me assassinating someone's character.  Now off you go and be sure to let me know what you find.

Offline mercury

Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #129 on: July 26, 2015, 07:54:58 PM »
That is a direct accusation that will require some actual evidence.  So please provide evidence of me assassinating someone's character.  Now off you go and be sure to let me know what you find.

You're having a laugh, surely. It's OK if you can't see it. And I did say you and  others, maybe you aren't  the worse perpetrator, might give you that.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #130 on: July 26, 2015, 07:55:37 PM »
*&*%£
Where did these facts and figures come from?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/21-JAN9/MAIL-29-01-09FUND.jpg

They are from a newspaper I believe. The accounts were the first filed; 2007-2008. That level of detail was never given again.
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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #131 on: July 26, 2015, 07:58:25 PM »
Are you aware what tends to happen online to people who support the McCanns and whose identities are known, or even to people who simply happen to be related the the McCanns by marriage?

No, but I'm aware that those who doubt the Mccanns have been pursued by 'reporters'.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #132 on: July 26, 2015, 07:59:36 PM »
They are from a newspaper I believe. The accounts were the first filed; 2007-2008. That level of detail was never given again.
Was that level of detail transparent enough for you? 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #133 on: July 26, 2015, 08:00:19 PM »
No, but I'm aware that those who doubt the Mccanns have been pursued by 'reporters'.
So, you're not aware of anyone associated with the McCanns who have been subjected to online character assassination?  Are you sure?

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Re: Does the Madeleine Fund have a moral obligation to transparency?
« Reply #134 on: July 26, 2015, 08:01:58 PM »
Are you aware what tends to happen online to people who support the McCanns and whose identities are known, or even to people who simply happen to be related the the McCanns by marriage?

This person's name is not hard to find and i haven't heard of them having any problems. They are happy enough to put their CV on an easily accessed website.
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