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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #345 on: January 06, 2016, 10:40:50 AM »
You ask for a cite, I give you a cite. If you don't like it, then tough.
Your cite does not back up your claim, so it's irrelevant.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #346 on: January 06, 2016, 10:42:26 AM »
If a death was covered up to these extreme lengths the police know what would be the most probable reason for it.

And they have said the McCanns are not suspects and spent eleven million in Portugal look it for a suspect

stephen25000

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #347 on: January 06, 2016, 10:43:00 AM »
From the article.

' Dr Roger Henderson, one of Britain’s leading medics, says parents drugging children is not a new phenomenon. ‘We’ve come a long way, thank goodness, from the Victorian days of doling out opium, gin and laudanum for a good night’s sleep,’ he says. ‘Sedating children on aeroplanes is just the 21st-century equivalent.’
Provided guidelines and dosage are followed correctly, he sees no problem with parents resorting to Phenergan on flights.
‘There’s no harm in administering it occasionally,’ he says. ‘But I wouldn’t recommend regular use.’
That’s fine by me. With all our Airmiles used up we’ll be caravanning in Cornwall this summer. Though I’ll take a bottle just in case we get stuck in traffic. '


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Offline jassi

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #348 on: January 06, 2016, 10:44:14 AM »
And they have said the McCanns are not suspects and spent eleven million in Portugal look it for a suspect


Such a shame they don't seem to have found one.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #349 on: January 06, 2016, 10:44:51 AM »
And they have said the McCanns are not suspects and spent eleven million in Portugal look it for a suspect

and they have found NOTHING.

By the way, didn't the article the other day, say over £12 million ?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #350 on: January 06, 2016, 10:45:16 AM »
From the article.

' Dr Roger Henderson, one of Britain’s leading medics, says parents drugging children is not a new phenomenon. ‘We’ve come a long way, thank goodness, from the Victorian days of doling out opium, gin and laudanum for a good night’s sleep,’ he says. ‘Sedating children on aeroplanes is just the 21st-century equivalent.’
Provided guidelines and dosage are followed correctly, he sees no problem with parents resorting to Phenergan on flights.
‘There’s no harm in administering it occasionally,’ he says. ‘But I wouldn’t recommend regular use.’
That’s fine by me. With all our Airmiles used up we’ll be caravanning in Cornwall this summer. Though I’ll take a bottle just in case we get stuck in traffic. '


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2305529/Why-I-drug-children-airplanes-We-know-hell-bawling-toddlers-flights-But-mums-controversial-solution-.html#ixzz3wSZ2VLIN
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So - that's one woman's opinion - and that means "it's the height of good parenting and something we all do" does it?

Offline jassi

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #351 on: January 06, 2016, 10:51:23 AM »
and they have found NOTHING.

By the way, didn't the article the other day, say over £12 million ?

Just to be pedantic, some of it will have been spent on G4S in this country.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #352 on: January 06, 2016, 10:52:28 AM »
So - that's one woman's opinion - and that means "it's the height of good parenting and something we all do" does it?

It clearly isn't one woman, and of course I am referring to the doctor.

..and I certainly don't approve of amateurs administering drugs.

stephen25000

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #353 on: January 06, 2016, 10:54:04 AM »
Just to be pedantic, some of it will have been spent on G4S in this country.

and G4S, would have great difficulty in organizing a pi## up in a brewery, even with written instructions and arrows to lead the way.

ferryman

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #354 on: January 06, 2016, 10:54:53 AM »
I'm not suggesting anything except that drugging children to keep them quiet is apparently fairly common.

I'm not suggesting anything ...

What I quote, combined with the rest of your sentence, makes the whole sentence as a lie.

The because it has happened, in a particular instance, it must have happened ... line of circular reasoning really is beyond the pale.

EXCEPT:

A little girls was kidnapped from a bath of a ground-floor flat while all the family was in ...

And because it did happen, the scenario of Madeleine being abducted is entirely plausible.

I am using a it did happen, there it might have happened ... line of argument to argue for innocence.

That is wholly acceptable.

Others use the same line of reasoning to argue for guilt.

That is beyond the pale.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #355 on: January 06, 2016, 11:00:32 AM »
It clearly isn't one woman, and of course I am referring to the doctor.

..and I certainly don't approve of amateurs administering drugs.
The doctor stated it's not something to be done on a regular basis though he sees no harm in occasional use - and how does this back up the claim that it is "the height of good parenting and we're all doing it" exactly?

Offline jassi

Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #356 on: January 06, 2016, 11:02:27 AM »
The doctor stated it's not something to be done on a regular basis though he sees no harm in occasional use - and how does this back up the claim that it is "the height of good parenting and we're all doing it" exactly?

Shame you don't recognise sarcasm .
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #357 on: January 06, 2016, 11:04:58 AM »
The doctor stated it's not something to be done on a regular basis though he sees no harm in occasional use - and how does this back up the claim that it is "the height of good parenting and we're all doing it" exactly?

Did I say it was ?

You appear, to have misread one of my replies.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #358 on: January 06, 2016, 11:06:07 AM »
I'm not suggesting anything ...

What I quote, combined with the rest of your sentence, makes the whole sentence as a lie.

The because it has happened, in a particular instance, it must have happened ... line of circular reasoning really is beyond the pale.

EXCEPT:

A little girls was kidnapped from a bath of a ground-floor flat while all the family was in ...

And because it did happen, the scenario of Madeleine being abducted is entirely plausible.

I am using a it did happen, there it might have happened ... line of argument to argue for innocence.

That is wholly acceptable.

Others use the same line of reasoning to argue for guilt.

That is beyond the pale.
G-Unit will not nail her colours to any particular sedative mast and this is why:

Apparently  it is common for parents to administer an antihistamine to children to help them sleep.  It is not illegal to do so and as it is so common, and could be argued that the child was given the antihistamine for perfectly legitimate reasons then finding traces of the antihistamine in a body of a child that died accidentally would not necessitate a cover up.

This therefore means that whilst "everyone and his dog" is giving their kids antihistamine left right and centre, it's obviously not a plausible "sceptic" theory that it happened in this case, which means they have to turn their attention to more sinister, possibly illegal sedatives, none of which they seem able or willing to name, nor provide any evidence for their use. 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment
« Reply #359 on: January 06, 2016, 11:06:56 AM »
Shame you don't recognise sarcasm .
If it was sarcasm why did you attempt to justify your remark with a cite?