Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?

[Miss Taken Identity]

We heard it on the first few weeks of Madeleine Beth McCanns disappearance, it was a British cultural edit that let poor Maddie be 'abducted' according to her parents.

 This has been mentioned a lot on this forum by people who support this idea. Claiming it to be a cultural normal behaviour, and not just embraced by a sub culture of neglegctful parents. Trying to normalise it, excuse it is in my opinion, abhorant and vile. Especially as children do suffer, no matter what job the parents do, as the McCann case shows, There is no excuse for bad parenting, so let us not normalise it. 

Maybe this mother was just 'lucky'?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3388340/British-policewoman-arrested-leaving-sleeping-baby-Manhattan-hotel-room-Single-mother-sues-New-York-authorities-claiming-child-held-hostage-kidnapped-foreign-country.html#reader-comments

[G-Unit]

They done't mess about in the US do they? She wasn't even out wining and dining during her 30 minute absence.

Is the attitude of some people a hang-over from the Victorian attitude that children should be seen and not heard, I wonder? European people find our relationships with our children strange, I do know. I also know that not all modern parents would support the 'cultural difference' argument, they are very committed to the care of their children.

[Mr Gray]

They done't mess about in the US do they? She wasn't even out wining and dining during her 30 minute absence.

Is the attitude of some people a hang-over from the Victorian attitude that children should be seen and not heard, I wonder? European people find our relationships with our children strange, I do know. I also know that not all modern parents would support the 'cultural difference' argument, they are very committed to the care of their children.

Hotel baby listening services are alive...well and legal in the UK...more to this story no doubt

[Miss Taken Identity]

Hotel baby listening services are alive...well and legal in the UK...more to this story no doubt

Not so legal if the child is 'abducted'. re being legal has this been tested and confirmed in law? Just because people do it does not make it right!

It is now illegal to take and leave your child abroad for 'cultural' reasons.

[Mr Gray]

Not so legal if the child is 'abducted'. re being legal has this been tested and confirmed in law? Just because people do it does not make it right!

It is now illegal to take and leave your child abroad for 'cultural' reasons.

I'm not making any judgement just stating a fact...

[Carana]

Not so legal if the child is 'abducted'. re being legal has this been tested and confirmed in law? Just because people do it does not make it right!

It is now illegal to take and leave your child abroad for 'cultural' reasons.

What do you mean by "cultural" reasons?

[Miss Taken Identity]

What do you mean by "cultural" reasons?

FGM and arranged marriages for children as young as 6. Mentally and physically disabled children being married to families in India to get citizenship.  You didn't know about this? oh ok. great parenting skills eh?

FGM: This has been hidden for too long! And Mr Wonderful himself- god like- Nelson Mandella did nothing about it in his country! 6 YEAR OLDS having full genital butchery!  nothing to do with any particular religion- just cultural, within 'black' tribes. Still going on.

[Lace]

Weird story.   Woman goes away for three months!!  Then stays at what looks like a Hostel, with her little boy.

Why didn't she go for a shorter length of time and then stay in a proper hotel where she would have had a kettle for one thing to boil out the baby's bottles?

There's more to this story than meets the eye.

Strange that the child was handed over to Foster Parents and that she has had to come home without him.

[G-Unit]

Weird story.   Woman goes away for three months!!  Then stays at what looks like a Hostel, with her little boy.

Why didn't she go for a shorter length of time and then stay in a proper hotel where she would have had a kettle for one thing to boil out the baby's bottles?

There's more to this story than meets the eye.

Strange that the child was handed over to Foster Parents and that she has had to come home without him.

She was on Maternity leave and he needed vitamin D for his development? Lol

[Alfred R Jones]

Weird story.   Woman goes away for three months!!  Then stays at what looks like a Hostel, with her little boy.

Why didn't she go for a shorter length of time and then stay in a proper hotel where she would have had a kettle for one thing to boil out the baby's bottles?

There's more to this story than meets the eye.

Strange that the child was handed over to Foster Parents and that she has had to come home without him.

Strange that she hasn't even been found guilty of neglect and still loses her child - isn't that a bit "police state"?

[Lace]

Strange that she hasn't even been found guilty of neglect and still loses her child - isn't that a bit "police state"?

That's why I think there is more to this story Alf,  it's a bit OTT.

[Alfred R Jones]

That's why I think there is more to this story Alf,  it's a bit OTT.

If my parents had been reported by staff at the hotel in NY we stayed in where they left me and my infant sister alone to go out on the razz one night in the early 70s, then we would both have been raised by foster parents which would quite likely have ruined our young lives.  My parents were stupid, and quite rightly deserved a reprimand or fine, but as loving, caring parents on the whole and with happy well adjusted children, to remove us from their care would have been utterly callous and devastating for all concerned.

[Lace]

If my parents had been reported by staff at the hotel in NY we stayed in where they left me and my infant sister alone to go out on the razz one night in the early 70s, then we would both have been raised by foster parents which would quite likely have ruined our young lives.  My parents were stupid, and quite rightly deserved a reprimand or fine, but as loving, caring parents on the whole and with happy well adjusted children, to remove us from their care would have been utterly callous and devastating for all concerned.

Doubt very much if the child was taken away to foster care for her just leaving him for 30 minutes.

As for the putting him on the floor when she had breakfast,   well if he was on the carpet what's the problem?

It is callous,  the child is growing up without his Mum and she's come home without him,  quite bizarre.

[Miss Taken Identity]

If my parents had been reported by staff at the hotel in NY we stayed in where they left me and my infant sister alone to go out on the razz one night in the early 70s, then we would both have been raised by foster parents which would quite likely have ruined our young lives.  My parents were stupid, and quite rightly deserved a reprimand or fine, but as loving, caring parents on the whole and with happy well adjusted children, to remove us from their care would have been utterly callous and devastating for all concerned.

So, are you agreeing with this parenting behaviour? and if a child is raped, murdered, abducted, whilst theor parents 'enjoy' themselves, then it would be someone elses fault? the police perhaps or the guy who phoned the police? the journalist who reported it and blamed the parents? who's fault would it be in your opinion Alfie.

[Carana]

I just read up to find the article in question.

Strange story, but hard to tell if the article is accurate or not. It repeats the same details over and over for no fathomable reason.

I think I'll wait for further information on that one.