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stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2016, 06:00:31 PM »
45057474

Square root of -1 for the latter.

It's the same JP.   @)(++(*

59C6 and 59C53 give the same answer.

P.S. I didn't need to Google it.

Look it up.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2016, 06:55:52 PM »
It's the same JP.   @)(++(*

59C6 and 59C53 give the same answer.

P.S. I didn't need to Google it.

Look it up.

There are not 59 balls in the lottery

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2016, 07:05:50 PM »
It's the same JP.   @)(++(*

59C6 and 59C53 give the same answer.

P.S. I didn't need to Google it.

Look it up.

Read my answer very carefully Stephen - did I differentiate.   ?{)(**

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2016, 07:07:36 PM »
Read my answer very carefully Stephen - did I differentiate.   ?{)(**

Yep.

You referred to the square root of minus 1.

The 'i' s have it. %£5&% %£5&%

You could always try to integrate your answers, to make sense. 8)-)))
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2016, 07:27:37 PM »
Rubbish.  Anything's possible, it's just a question of how likely it is.  I've never won the lottery before.  It doesn't mean I will certainly never win it, but the likelihood is virtually nil (especially as I rarely buy a ticket).

So why do you frequently ask "sceptics" for examples then?
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Offline misty

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2016, 07:28:12 PM »
Are there any examples of abducted children being recovered after 8+ years due to an ongoing investigation? We have examples of them escaping or otherwise turning up, but through an investigation?
May 23, 2007
Justice minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin is setting up an investigation into the case of the Indian boy allegedly kidnapped from his home and later adopted by a Dutch couple. ‘This is a very serious case,’ Ballin is reported as saying. ‘Think of the repercussions for everyone involved.’ The boy was allegedly kidnapped in 1999 and sold to a children’s home with a false letter of acceptance from the parents. He was then brought to the Netherlands by a Dutch adoption agency and adopted by a Dutch couple. TV show Netwerk reported on Monday that the Indian police want the child returned to India for DNA tests and to rejoin his biological parents. According to the Netwerk report the Dutch agency has known the child had been kidnapped since 2005. Meanwhile, adoption specialist Rene Hoksbergen says it is possible that more Dutch adoption agencies are dealing in children stolen in India. He says 53 children have been brought to this country from the children’s centre involved in the Netwerk case.

Read more at DutchNews.nl: ‘Stolen boy’ may be one of dozens http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2007/05/stolen_boy_may_be_one_of_dozen/
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further to that:_

http://www.againstchildtrafficking.org/category/pap/nagarani/


Parents Nagarani and Kathirvel
Countries: India, The Netherlands
Agencies:  Malaysian Social Services, Meiling

Nagarani and Kathrivel’s son was kidnapped during the night in Chennai, India. Five years later the kidnappers were arrested and they confessed that her son had been sold to an orphanage Malaysian Social Services Chennai and subsequently was given for adoption to adoptive parents in the Netherlands, through the mediation of a Dutch adoption agency.

ACT retraced the child in the Netherlands. The adoptive parents have so far refused to cooperate in DNA testing, to proof that the child is indeed Nagarani’s. ACT helped this Indian family to find a Dutch Attorney and to file a Court case in the Netherlands that took place in June 2010.

After two weeks, Nagarani and Kathirvel went back to India. Without even having met the adoptive parents, who did not appear in Court.

The Family Court of Zwolle-Lelystad has ruled on March 4 2011 in the case. The Indian couple’s request for a DNA test to determine that a boy adopted by Dutch parents is their biological son, was dismissed by the Court.

On 13 September 2012 the Dutch Appeal Court also dismissed the Indian’s parent’s request.

ACT is working on further actions.


Offline slartibartfast

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2016, 07:36:26 PM »
May 23, 2007
Justice minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin is setting up an investigation into the case of the Indian boy allegedly kidnapped from his home and later adopted by a Dutch couple. ‘This is a very serious case,’ Ballin is reported as saying. ‘Think of the repercussions for everyone involved.’ The boy was allegedly kidnapped in 1999 and sold to a children’s home with a false letter of acceptance from the parents. He was then brought to the Netherlands by a Dutch adoption agency and adopted by a Dutch couple. TV show Netwerk reported on Monday that the Indian police want the child returned to India for DNA tests and to rejoin his biological parents. According to the Netwerk report the Dutch agency has known the child had been kidnapped since 2005. Meanwhile, adoption specialist Rene Hoksbergen says it is possible that more Dutch adoption agencies are dealing in children stolen in India. He says 53 children have been brought to this country from the children’s centre involved in the Netwerk case.

Read more at DutchNews.nl: ‘Stolen boy’ may be one of dozens http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2007/05/stolen_boy_may_be_one_of_dozen/
======================================================================

further to that:_

http://www.againstchildtrafficking.org/category/pap/nagarani/


Parents Nagarani and Kathirvel
Countries: India, The Netherlands
Agencies:  Malaysian Social Services, Meiling

Nagarani and Kathrivel’s son was kidnapped during the night in Chennai, India. Five years later the kidnappers were arrested and they confessed that her son had been sold to an orphanage Malaysian Social Services Chennai and subsequently was given for adoption to adoptive parents in the Netherlands, through the mediation of a Dutch adoption agency.

ACT retraced the child in the Netherlands. The adoptive parents have so far refused to cooperate in DNA testing, to proof that the child is indeed Nagarani’s. ACT helped this Indian family to find a Dutch Attorney and to file a Court case in the Netherlands that took place in June 2010.

After two weeks, Nagarani and Kathirvel went back to India. Without even having met the adoptive parents, who did not appear in Court.

The Family Court of Zwolle-Lelystad has ruled on March 4 2011 in the case. The Indian couple’s request for a DNA test to determine that a boy adopted by Dutch parents is their biological son, was dismissed by the Court.

On 13 September 2012 the Dutch Appeal Court also dismissed the Indian’s parent’s request.

ACT is working on further actions.

Not sure if that really counts.
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Offline misty

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2016, 07:43:50 PM »
Not sure if that really counts.

It covers all the criteria in your question.
If a trafficker's remit is a white English girl, there can't be many better places to abduct one than from a holiday resort in an EU country with an inadequate police force & precious little CCTV.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2016, 08:07:04 PM »
It covers all the criteria in your question.
If a trafficker's remit is a white English girl, there can't be many better places to abduct one than from a holiday resort in an EU country with an inadequate police force & precious little CCTV.

Then the media campaign publicising the eye defect began and they realised they had a child so recognisable that no-one would want her...
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Offline misty

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2016, 08:11:15 PM »
Then the media campaign publicising the eye defect began and they realised they had a child so recognisable that no-one would want her...

You do know that between 4 & 19 in every 100.000 people suffer with coloboma ?

Offline jassi

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2016, 08:15:06 PM »
Maybe but they're not all blonde girls of a certain age, are they ?
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Offline misty

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2016, 08:17:57 PM »
Maybe but they're not all blonde girls of a certain age, are they ?

How many do you suppose their are in Sweden, Norway or Russia?
 Did you know that Americans living in Russia are not allowed to adopt children from Russian orphanages?

Offline jassi

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2016, 08:20:31 PM »
How many do you suppose their are in Sweden, Norway or Russia?
 Did you know that Americans living in Russia are not allowed to adopt children from Russian orphanages?

Quite a lot, I imagine, but they will be of all ages including many adults, so not so many that would fit the criteria.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

ferryman

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2016, 08:24:31 PM »
Of course.

Austrian 10-year-old, Natascha Kampusch was abducted on her way to school in 1998, and not seen or heard from for 8 years. She spent those 8 years as a prisoner of her kidnapper, Wolfgang Priklopil, where she acted as his maid, cook, companion, and victim of every kind of abuse. He kept her in a 5 by 5 foot, windowless cell for days at a time, and it wasn’t until she was older that he allowed her to spend time in the garden, and occasionally go on trips with him. One day, after her 18th birthday, while Priklopil was distracted by a phone call, Natascha made a run for it. Rather than be arrested, Priklopil committed suicide by jumping in front of a train. Now, Natascha owns the house in which she was held prisoner, saying she doesn’t ever want it to be turned into a museum of her lost adolescence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAxRCnoa9Aw

Offline Carana

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2016, 08:52:14 PM »
Are there any examples of abducted children being recovered after 8+ years due to an ongoing investigation? We have examples of them escaping or otherwise turning up, but through an investigation?

Shawn Horbeck was found after 4+ years by police... but because they were hot on the trail of a different boy who'd been kidnapped a few days previously.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Devlin

It's not 8+ years, but it could have dragged on that long.