Wandering Off Topic

[Alice Purjorick]

You reap what you sow I suppose.

There is no suppose about it......imo

[Robittybob1]

Shame that Kate writes in 'madeleine' that the sequence of events was quite different. I will dig out the relevant cite, yet again, for anyone who wishes to be pedantic.

I think you had better do that.  I'm not sure how you think the sequence was actually different.

[Brietta]

Shame that Kate writes in 'madeleine' that the sequence of events was quite different. I will dig out the relevant cite, yet again, for anyone who wishes to be pedantic.

Kate wrote MADELEINE with personal experience and the benefit of hindsight.  I would therefore expect whatever she writes to be much more accurate than a newspaper not in possession of all the facts as she was.

However the gist of the article is all to accurate and that is that the McCanns were made arguidos eight days before a change in the law meant that mere suspicion of wrongdoing was not enough justification for so doing - it required firm evidence in justification.
In my opinion a disinterested observer looking at it dispassionately would be able to see at a glance why the law was changed ... it made mistakes less likely and cut down on corruption.

So fire ahead ... I think pedants are always welcome ... they certainly used to be on this thread.

[Alice Purjorick]

All quiet on the western front then?

"all quiet on the Western Front" has become a colloquial expression meaning stagnation, or lack of visible change, in any context"

[Vertigo Swirl]

Please provide a cite for that or delete.

It's my opinion and so I don't need to provide a cite.  Surely you are not claiming never to have seen British sceptics slagging off British police whilst lauding the PJ to high heaven?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Let's start with an explanation of how much help Madeleine could expect if her mother had been locked away like Leonore Cipriano?
Who is looking for Joana?

Presently the Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard have fully investigated Madeleine's case which is still an active one until we are told differently.

I don't think 'misunderstood' is the word I would use for an articulate couple who finally achieved that level of police support for their missing daughter; 'misrepresented' being far more appropriate one to refer to the situation in which they found themselves ... in my opinion.

Fanciful appeal to a weak hearted.  There is NO evidence Kate was going to be locked up without a trial so please spare us the made up stories.

Madelienes whereabouts is the parents responsibility! Why are you dumping that into the police and the global public? tapas 9 could have kept lookingtaking it in turns?  Kate N Gerry went to Portugal many times -not to look for their daughter but to chase money.


Evidence they are 'articulate' please. case study, references etc are welcome.

[Vertigo Swirl]

IYO.

If there were no grounds for suspicion, they would have been interviewed as witnesses, not arguidos.

I'm talking about actual evidence, not Amaral's gut feel.

[Erngath]

You reap what you sow I suppose.

Unfortunately that is not always true. IMO.

[Vertigo Swirl]

We're not discussing slight criticism, we're discussing a sustained attack on the people, representatives and institutions of another country by the British media and some British citizens. Anyone who believes in fair play would disassociate themselves from such behaviour in my opinion. It's not anti-British to do that, it's anti the uneducated and xenophobic elements in our society.

The same goes for the xenophobic attitude towards the British  by the Portuguese media and some of its citizens,who seem to have decided that most Brits abroad are feckless drunks who neglect their children as a matter of routine.  As an advocate of fair play I'm sure you wholeheartedly agree. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

There is no suppose about it......imo

And the same goes for you.

[Alice Purjorick]

It's my opinion and so I don't need to provide a cite.  Surely you are not claiming never to have seen British sceptics slagging off British police whilst lauding the PJ to high heaven?

Do you find that unusual as a principle? as in for pretty much everything in life "some folk swear by 'em others swear at 'em" or is it just some people saying things in defence of the PJ that you find distasteful ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

The same goes for the xenophobic attitude towards the British  by the Portuguese media and some of its citizens,who seem to have decided that most Brits abroad are feckless drunks who neglect their children as a matter of routine.  As an advocate of fair play I'm sure you wholeheartedly agree.

Are you suggesting there is no truth in this? You need to go to 'English tourist hot spots' it is vile behaviour witnessed by many Uk citizens who do not drink booze all night and leave their children alone. It was your darlings the McCanns who told the world media it is a UK cultural thing. So hey ho.

Yeah they saw nothing wrong in dragging a whole nation into their web. it being lies as well.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do you find that unusual as a principle? as in for pretty much everything in life "some folk swear by 'em others swear at 'em" or is it just some people saying things in defence of the PJ that you find distasteful ?

Cite for distasteful please.
To reiterate:

There also appears to be a curious anti-British undercurrent from Brits who doubt the McCanns, who also seem quite defensive of even the slightest criticism directed at anything Portuguese.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Cite for distasteful please.
To reiterate:

There also appears to be a curious anti-British undercurrent from Brits who doubt the McCanns, who also seem quite defensive of even the slightest criticism directed at anything Portuguese.

IN YOUR OPINION you have no evidence  of this claim what so ever.  rant rant rant...

[Robittybob1]

IN YOUR OPINION you have no evidence  of this claim what so ever.  rant rant rant...

It is quite obvious after a while.  Polarisation would be an apt description.