Wandering Off Topic

[Mr Gray]

1.83m British tourists to Portugal last year, how many needed to be hit round the head with a Portuguese truncheon, I wonder?

According to gunit all of them...

[Wonderfulspam]

1.83 million visitors, & none of them managed to lose any children.

[Vertigo Swirl]

1.83 million visitors, & none of them managed to lose any children.

Then they must all be brilliant parents and worthy of praise not censure and truncheons round the head.

[G-Unit]

And cobblers to you too... With bells on... Seeing as you've lowered the standard of debate I may as, well respond.

Yes I know exactly what fascism means... Portugal has a history of it in case you didn't know

Are you referring to the Estado Novo? (1926-1974). Not purely Fascist imo.

[Eleanor]

Are you referring to the Estado Novo? (1926-1974). Not purely Fascist imo.

What exactly purely was it then?

[G-Unit]

What exactly purely was it then?

However, the fascist governments of Portugal and Spain did not take part in World War II, and stayed in power until the 1970s. Many scholars consider these governments to have been or evolved into traditionalist and conservative rather than fascist. Fascism, while supporting order and stability as conservatism does, wants to transform society in new ways.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

[Eleanor]

However, the fascist governments of Portugal and Spain did not take part in World War II, and stayed in power until the 1970s. Many scholars consider these governments to have been or evolved into traditionalist and conservative rather than fascist. Fascism, while supporting order and stability as conservatism does, wants to transform society in new ways.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

My husband was in Portugal on a Naval Mission before The Glorious Revolution and he said it was scary and definitely Fascist.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Some people will argue back is white IMO. 

[Eleanor]

Mendes.  Portuguese Ambassador to Marseille during the war.  He was dispossessed and banished from Portugal by Salazar because he helped to save a few Jews.

[Brietta]

However, the fascist governments of Portugal and Spain did not take part in World War II, and stayed in power until the 1970s. Many scholars consider these governments to have been or evolved into traditionalist and conservative rather than fascist. Fascism, while supporting order and stability as conservatism does, wants to transform society in new ways.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Guernica

At about 16:30 on Monday, 26 April 1937, warplanes of the German Condor Legion, commanded by Colonel Wolfram von Richthofen, bombed Guernica for about two hours. Germany, at this time led by Hitler, had lent material support to the Nationalists and were using the war as an opportunity to test out new weapons and tactics. Later, intense aerial bombardment became a crucial preliminary step in the Blitzkrieg tactic.
https://www.pablopicasso.org/guernica.jsp

[G-Unit]

My husband was in Portugal on a Naval Mission before The Glorious Revolution and he said it was scary and definitely Fascist.

Well that's one opinion, but not exactly an expert one.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well that's one opinion, but not exactly an expert one.

And yours is I suppose?

[G-Unit]

Guernica

At about 16:30 on Monday, 26 April 1937, warplanes of the German Condor Legion, commanded by Colonel Wolfram von Richthofen, bombed Guernica for about two hours. Germany, at this time led by Hitler, had lent material support to the Nationalists and were using the war as an opportunity to test out new weapons and tactics. Later, intense aerial bombardment became a crucial preliminary step in the Blitzkrieg tactic.
https://www.pablopicasso.org/guernica.jsp

And?

[ShiningInLuz]

Guernica

At about 16:30 on Monday, 26 April 1937, warplanes of the German Condor Legion, commanded by Colonel Wolfram von Richthofen, bombed Guernica for about two hours. Germany, at this time led by Hitler, had lent material support to the Nationalists and were using the war as an opportunity to test out new weapons and tactics. Later, intense aerial bombardment became a crucial preliminary step in the Blitzkrieg tactic.
https://www.pablopicasso.org/guernica.jsp

Guernica is not in Portugal.

It's the SPANISH civil war.

And it has been totally misrepresented.

Other than that .......

[Brietta]

Guernica is not in Portugal.

It's the SPANISH civil war.

And it has been totally misrepresented.

Other than that .......

Guernica

"The Bombing of Guernica, 1937," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (2005).

You said ...
"Cobblers.

Do you have any clue as to what fascism means?"   http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7060.msg564847#msg564847
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Lest we forget ... "a picture is worth more than  thousand words" and far from 'misrepresenting' fascism 'Guernica' has always been for me, the epitome of the evils of the fascism which my parents' generation fought a war against.
A war against fascism in Europe which in the beginning gave us Guernica; a war against fascism the justness of which was proved when the allies liberated the concentration camps of Europe.