Wandering Off Topic

[Mr Gray]

The remit by SY was arrived at because that's where all the evidence pointed.. IMO.. Simple

[Lace]

You begin by suggesting that carrying a body through the streets occured immediately after discovering it. Then you go on to suggest finding a body, hiding it, telling no-one and then chatting unconcernedly with an acquaintance. Can you think of any other possibilities?

No there are no other possibilities.   I don't want to discuss any idea that Madeleine 'died' before the 3rd of May.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If Operation Grange had stumbled upon a key piece of evidence that pointed incontrovertibly to the McCanns do sceptics here believe they would have buried it?  If so, why?  Surely solving this case would be their top priority, not protecting the McCanns, unless anyone can give a very good reason why the latter would be more important than the former?

[Eleanor]

Some persons will never believe that The McCanns are innocent no matter what evidence or even proof is produced.

So I don't expect this Forum to be going anywhere any time soon.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Some persons will never believe that The McCanns are innocent no matter what evidence or even proof is produced.

So I don't expect this Forum to be going anywhere any time soon.

What is also clear is that despite their protestations to the contrary some persons do believe that the McCanns are being protected by the Establishment.  This is a popular conspiracy theory trope but heaven forfend you call anyone here a conspiracy theorist!

[Eleanor]

What is also clear is that despite their protestations to the contrary some persons do believe that the McCanns are being protected by the Establishment.  This is a popular conspiracy theory trope but heaven forfend you call anyone here a conspiracy theorist!

It's the zeal with which these persons pursue it that fascinates me.  I don't much care either way as I have only ever been interested in Innocent Until Proven Guilty.  And why they think I have some emotional involvement is also puzzling.  But how could I ever blame The McCanns for something I did myself?  That would be hypocrisy.

So far I have seen nothing that actually proves that anyone in particular stole Madeleine or that The McCanns harmed their daughter in any way.

[jassi]

It's the zeal with which these persons pursue it that fascinates me.  I don't much care either way as I have only ever been interested in Innocent Until Proven Guilty.  And why they think I have some emotional involvement is also puzzling.  But how could I ever blame The McCanns for something I did myself?  That would be hypocrisy.

So far I have seen nothing that actually proves that anyone in particular stole Madeleine or that The McCanns harmed their daughter in any way.

13 years on, all we  still have are suspicions

[Brietta]

13 years on, all we  still have are suspicions

In your opinion perhaps ~ in my opinion there is evidence of an active and complex police investigation which is well underway.

[Eleanor]

13 years on, all we  still have are suspicions

Yes, I know.  This is another mystery to me.  I don't do Suspicions.

[faithlilly]

In your opinion perhaps ~ in my opinion there is evidence of an active and complex police investigation which is well underway.

So complex that SY haven’t even been shown why the BKA think Madeleine is dead.

[jassi]

In your opinion perhaps ~ in my opinion there is evidence of an active and complex police investigation which is well underway.

Still only suspicions, though - however certain they may or may not be.
Not enough to arrest to take to court - as yet.

[Mr Gray]

Still only suspicions, though - however certain they may or may not be.
Not enough to arrest to take to court - as yet.

I think a lot more than suspicions. But not enough to take to court and be certain of a conviction

[G-Unit]

Who decided the remit and why?

I don't know but it seems a high ranking officer knew something about it before it was actually set up; he knew there were going to be restrictions on it's scope.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't know but it seems a high ranking officer knew something about it before it was actually set up; he knew there were going to be restrictions on it's scope.

So you do believe that there is some sort of conspiracy at a high level to protect the McCanns?

[G-Unit]

No there are no other possibilities.   I don't want to discuss any idea that Madeleine 'died' before the 3rd of May.

How about between 5.30pm and 8.30pm?