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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9645 on: February 22, 2021, 02:09:56 PM »
I didn't realise the police were trained to turn a blind eye to compelling evidence that pointed in a different direction to that which they have been told to pursue by their superiors.  How astounding and how corrupt.

I never said the police were trained to do any such thing, and you have no evidence that they 'stumbled' upon anything which they subsequently ignored. You are raising a strawman argument imo.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #9646 on: February 22, 2021, 02:17:51 PM »
So if only two people say "it was Gerry" does that mean they are less likely to be wrong?  The irony of your post is quite astounding btw.  As if seven friends of Gerry would all be mistaken about his whereabouts at the time the alarm was raised.  Were they all completely pissed as farts?

What time was the alarm raised exactly?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9647 on: February 22, 2021, 02:31:18 PM »
I never said the police were trained to do any such thing, and you have no evidence that they 'stumbled' upon anything which they subsequently ignored. You are raising a strawman argument imo.
I didn't say there that the Met had found evidence against the McCanns.  I am not raising a strawman argument.  I posed a "what if" scenario and you replied that the police would ignore any such evidence against the McCanns because of their orders under the remit.  This would point to a dereliction of duty and corruption in my book, not to mention a cover up at a higher level, but it seems that you have a very low opinion of the Met so I am not surprised by your response. 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9648 on: February 22, 2021, 02:33:00 PM »
What time was the alarm raised exactly?
Irrelevant to the point Faithlilly was making, in which she claimed it was credible for all the Tapas group to be mistaken about Gerry's whereabouts at the point Kate raised the alarm.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #9649 on: February 22, 2021, 02:43:26 PM »
Irrelevant to the point Faithlilly was making, in which she claimed it was credible for all the Tapas group to be mistaken about Gerry's whereabouts at the point Kate raised the alarm.

Totally relevant to the point I'm making.

They couldn't all be precise about the time.

Matt said Kate left the table at 9.50, Gerry said 10:03.

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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9650 on: February 22, 2021, 02:52:19 PM »
What time was the alarm raised exactly?

That is a question which was never actually satisfactorily answered imo. For that I do blame the PJ. There were statements suggesting it was raised earlier than the Tapas group said it was, and those people should have been reinterviewed imo.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9651 on: February 22, 2021, 02:59:26 PM »
Totally relevant to the point I'm making.

They couldn't all be precise about the time.

Matt said Kate left the table at 9.50, Gerry said 10:03.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9652 on: February 22, 2021, 03:01:01 PM »
That is a question which was never actually satisfactorily answered imo. For that I do blame the PJ. There were statements suggesting it was raised earlier than the Tapas group said it was, and those people should have been reinterviewed imo.
As I recall you're quite convinced the only person who got the time right was the Tapas chef.  Didn't he say around 9.20pm?   Coz of course he would be best placed to know.
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #9653 on: February 22, 2021, 03:10:12 PM »
Don't blame Gonc for what happened, he had left by then.


Amaral put it in his book. -

This image, brings back with a jolt, that of the man they encountered in the streets of Vila da Luz, on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance. It's as if the scene is repeating itself ....Mr Smith thinking he's hallucinating, sees the same report on other channels, ITV and Sky News. From that moment, he is sure: the man they came across that night was Gerald McCann. Of that there is very little doubt. Upset by the implications of this discovery, he alerts the police and waits to be called back by those in charge of the investigation.


"He is sure the man they came across that night was Gerald McCann'.     In reality Mr Smith said he was 60/80% sure by the way he held his child.   It's could be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9654 on: February 22, 2021, 03:11:36 PM »
Totally relevant to the point I'm making.

They couldn't all be precise about the time.

Matt said Kate left the table at 9.50, Gerry said 10:03.


So, even if it was 9.50. Gerry was at the table.   Even if it was 10.03 Gerry was at the table.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #9655 on: February 22, 2021, 03:14:48 PM »
Y-A-W-N

Yawn all you like but it takes me less than 13 minutes a week to put the bins out.
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #9656 on: February 22, 2021, 03:19:47 PM »
Gerry was at the Tapas Bar.  Taken from Dianne Websters statement -

 Reply    ”One of them would stay, or stayed in the apartment while the other one gobbled down their meal and then, so I think Russell, Russell must have gone back and let Jane come and eat her meal because by that time err we’d, we’d ordered our main courses and err Russell had ordered steak and of course he wasn’t at the table when it was ready and he said oh you know (inaudible) to go back, he’ll be back later, once Jane finishes hers err just keep his steak warm err so Jane sort of gobbled down her, her meal and went, went back so that Russell could come and have his dinner and, and this must have been getting on for, I don’t know, maybe ten to ten or something like that. Again I wasn’t looking at the time but just thinking to what happened is that err Russell came back to table and err they’d actually cooked him a fresh steak and he was just starting to tuck into it when err Kate had obviously gone back to check on the children, came running in you know, as far as I can recollect she said you know she’s gone, Gerry, Madeleine’s gone, screaming you know.”

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9657 on: February 22, 2021, 03:19:51 PM »
Yawn all you like but it takes me less than 13 minutes a week to put the bins out.
Interesting, is that including your walk through Ramsgate with a dead child in your arms?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9658 on: February 22, 2021, 03:20:57 PM »

Amaral put it in his book. -

This image, brings back with a jolt, that of the man they encountered in the streets of Vila da Luz, on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance. It's as if the scene is repeating itself ....Mr Smith thinking he's hallucinating, sees the same report on other channels, ITV and Sky News. From that moment, he is sure: the man they came across that night was Gerald McCann. Of that there is very little doubt. Upset by the implications of this discovery, he alerts the police and waits to be called back by those in charge of the investigation.


"He is sure the man they came across that night was Gerald McCann'.     In reality Mr Smith said he was 60/80% sure by the way he held his child.   It's could be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

Another fallacy for the ECHR

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9659 on: February 22, 2021, 03:31:43 PM »
As I recall you're quite convinced the only person who got the time right was the Tapas chef.  Didn't he say around 9.20pm?   Coz of course he would be best placed to know.

I don't know who got the time right, but a lot of people gave times which didn't fit with the alarm being raised at 10pm or later.

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