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Offline misty

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« Reply #10500 on: June 13, 2021, 12:25:05 AM »
According to a company of Chartered Accountants..............

Perhaps it would help you to read corroborating details from the State of Jersey police themselves.

https://jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2008/november/press-conference-notes-from-operation-rectangle-update/

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10501 on: June 13, 2021, 12:48:19 AM »
Perhaps it would help you to read corroborating details from the State of Jersey police themselves.

https://jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2008/november/press-conference-notes-from-operation-rectangle-update/

Thanks, Misty.  I don't think I have seen that "straight from the horse's mouth" press release before although I have read it from the press who reported on it.

I think it is definitive.


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With regard to the particular evidence which has been highlighted in the media, the States of Jersey Police are clear that these do not support suggestions that there have been murders at Haut de la Garenne.  In particular;

A Piece of Child's Skull

 An anthropologist made an initial identification as this item being a piece of child's skull.
 At 10:45 am the SIO made a decision to release information to the press about the find.
 At 2pm the same day a press conference disclosed this item as the finding of the potential remains of a child.
 This item was lying within earth that is now identified as being Victorian era.
 On the 31st March 2008 Dr Higham from the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit stated he believed the item was not bone.
 The original anthropologist reviewed her initial identification and on 14th April 2008 had stated she no longer identified it as part of a skull.
 Dr Higham and Dr Jacobi (of the British Museum faunal specialist) concluded that the sample was not in fact bone, but was almost certainly wood.  They went further stating it was more like a part of a seed casing like a small piece of coconut.
 The conclusions are therefore that the sample is a) Not bone and b) Not human.
 The States of Jersey Police satisfied that having liaised with the anthropologist and Dr Higham and other experts, that this item is not human and was found in a Victorian context.


https://jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2008/november/press-conference-notes-from-operation-rectangle-update/
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10502 on: June 13, 2021, 01:59:24 AM »
Perhaps it would help you to read corroborating details from the State of Jersey police themselves.

https://jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2008/november/press-conference-notes-from-operation-rectangle-update/

Which does not say that Eddie alerted to a piece of coconut. He did alert to the area where the item was found, but I've seen nothing to support BDO's claim that he specifically alerted to the item. Even if he did, that doesn't mean it was human in origin. It could just mean it had absorbed scent present nearby.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #10503 on: June 13, 2021, 02:11:58 AM »
Which does not say that Eddie alerted to a piece of coconut. He did alert to the area where the item was found, but I've seen nothing to support BDO's claim that he specifically alerted to the item. Even if he did, that doesn't mean it was human in origin. It could just mean it had absorbed scent present nearby.

On another thread you said "I think people believe what they want to believe."

I think you may have hit the nail on the head with that one 😁
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10504 on: June 13, 2021, 02:31:27 AM »
Which does not say that Eddie alerted to a piece of coconut. He did alert to the area where the item was found, but I've seen nothing to support BDO's claim that he specifically alerted to the item. Even if he did, that doesn't mean it was human in origin. It could just mean it had absorbed scent present nearby.

So what happened to all of these Human Remains from whence this Cadaver Odour came?  Did someone dig them up?  All of them?  That would have been a job and a half.  But not a sign of anything.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10505 on: June 13, 2021, 02:41:23 AM »
On another thread you said "I think people believe what they want to believe."

I think you may have hit the nail on the head with that one 😁

There is something weird going on in the heads of some people.  The mere mention of Cadaver Dogs in this case produces bodies lying around all over the place, none of which have ever been found.  Not a single bone.  What a fantastic clean up job must have been done.  I can only wonder what some people think was done with all of these bodies once they had been removed from their original hiding place.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #10506 on: June 13, 2021, 03:02:30 AM »
There is something weird going on in the heads of some people.  The mere mention of Cadaver Dogs in this case produces bodies lying around all over the place, none of which have ever been found.  Not a single bone.  What a fantastic clean up job must have been done.  I can only wonder what some people think was done with all of these bodies once they had been removed from their original hiding place.

If the FSS report wasn't enough to clarify the situation for some, the shenanigans over Haute de la Garenne should have been enough to settle it.
I for one failed to realise the extent of the visceral hatred directed at Kate and Gerry McCann as epitomised in the never ending dog debate.  What 'dog debate' is that, one might say given that it was all done and dusted in 2007.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10507 on: June 13, 2021, 03:16:31 AM »
If the FSS report wasn't enough to clarify the situation for some, the shenanigans over Haute de la Garenne should have been enough to settle it.
I for one failed to realise the extent of the visceral hatred directed at Kate and Gerry McCann as epitomised in the never ending dog debate.  What 'dog debate' is that, one might say given that it was all done and dusted in 2007.

Martin Grime has a lot to answer for.  Although I don't think he did this with malice.  Just self aggrandisement and the pursuit of money.

The same can't be said for those who think that what they will of things he didn't say.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10508 on: June 13, 2021, 07:17:12 AM »
Which does not say that Eddie alerted to a piece of coconut. He did alert to the area where the item was found, but I've seen nothing to support BDO's claim that he specifically alerted to the item. Even if he did, that doesn't mean it was human in origin. It could just mean it had absorbed scent present nearby.
Is it completely and utterly out of the question that (gulp!) Eddie got it (I tremble to use the word) WRONG??  As others have pointed out, this item was buried, covered up, they had to dig it out, so where were all the remains that had once been buried with the coconut?  zDid the police overlook those to focus solely on the husk?   Did they not think to take soil samples at any point in their excavations?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10509 on: June 13, 2021, 11:05:10 AM »
Is it completely and utterly out of the question that (gulp!) Eddie got it (I tremble to use the word) WRONG??  As others have pointed out, this item was buried, covered up, they had to dig it out, so where were all the remains that had once been buried with the coconut?  zDid the police overlook those to focus solely on the husk?   Did they not think to take soil samples at any point in their excavations?

I don't know why Eddie alerted I just know that he did and I'm not convinced, after examining the evidence, that it was to a piece of coconut. That 'fact' seems to have been propagated by the media imo.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10510 on: June 13, 2021, 11:30:36 AM »
I don't know why Eddie alerted I just know that he did and I'm not convinced, after examining the evidence, that it was to a piece of coconut. That 'fact' seems to have been propagated by the media imo.
Not by the police then who mention it in their report, or perhaps you think they based their investigation on the tabloids as well?
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #10511 on: June 13, 2021, 11:56:51 AM »
I don't know why Eddie alerted I just know that he did and I'm not convinced, after examining the evidence, that it was to a piece of coconut. That 'fact' seems to have been propagated by the media imo.

So what do you THINK he alerted  to

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10512 on: June 13, 2021, 12:01:08 PM »
So what do you THINK he alerted  to
Don't expect a straight answer...
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10513 on: June 13, 2021, 12:13:17 PM »
Don't expect a straight answer...

It's all okay.  G Unit is destroying her own arguments.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10514 on: June 13, 2021, 12:15:16 PM »
I don't know why Eddie alerted I just know that he did and I'm not convinced, after examining the evidence, that it was to a piece of coconut. That 'fact' seems to have been propagated by the media imo.

You do realise what you think is of no imortance. Whats important is neither of the two forces who have cadaver dogs are convinced eddie alerted to MMs cadaver