Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Where in the PJ files does it state that Jane's sighting was ruled out because it was really just an innocent holidaymaker? Why doesn't this feature in Amaral's book?

Amaral was determined to paint JT as a liar and fantasist.  Totman proved she wasn’t.  That’s probably why he didn’t mention it IMO - better for his conspiracy theory if he has her inventing stuff.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

You can believe what you like, it doesn’t make it true.  This was a vital piece of information which cancelled out the (by now) famous Tannerman sighting and they didn’t think to take a statement or even leak it to the press to undermine The abduction theory?  Do me a favour…

So you don't believe Totman's own wife???? That's real conspiracy theory stuff!!

[Vertigo Swirl]

So you don't believe Totman's own wife???? That's real conspiracy theory stuff!!

Can you explain by what process of logic you arrived at the conclusion that I don’t believe Totman’s wife?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Can you explain by what process of logic you arrived at the conclusion that I don’t believe Totman’s wife?

You implied it, I thought, by saying "it doesn't make it true".

You seemed to imply that if it was true Amaral would have taken a statement or leaked it to the press? They did hear Dr Totman and didn't need to question him further. They had quickly established that Tannerman was not the abductor.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You implied it, I thought, by saying "it doesn't make it true".

You seemed to imply that if it was true Amaral would have taken a statement or leaked it to the press? They did hear Dr Totman and didn't need to question him further. They had quickly established that Tannerman was not the abductor.

No, what you seem to believe is that the PJ took a statement from Totman's and his wife and passed it on to the UK police.   That's what I am disputing.  There is no evidence for this, no statement in the file, no evidence that Amaral knew Tannerman actually existed and was Totman, nothing.

[misty]

No, what you seem to believe is that the PJ took a statement from Totman's and his wife and passed it on to the UK police.   That's what I am disputing.  There is no evidence for this, no statement in the file, no evidence that Amaral knew Tannerman actually existed and was Totman, nothing.

IMO someone else (not Jane) either saw Dr Totman + daughter near 5A at around 9.10pm or knew that this man was carrying a child wearing long-sleeved pyjamas.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

No, what you seem to believe is that the PJ took a statement from Totman's and his wife and passed it on to the UK police.   That's what I am disputing.  There is no evidence for this, no statement in the file, no evidence that Amaral knew Tannerman actually existed and was Totman, nothing.

Yes there is. There is confirmation that he presented himself to the PJ as the man likely to be Tannerman. Furthermore we know that the PJ were working closely at the time with Leicestershire Police and sharing information about sightings.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes there is. There is confirmation that he presented himself to the PJ as the man likely to be Tannerman. Furthermore we know that the PJ were working closely at the time with Leicestershire Police and sharing information about sightings.

And the evidence that the PJ took a statement from him and passed it on to Leicestershire Police is where exactly?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

And the evidence that the PJ took a statement from him and passed it on to Leicestershire Police is where exactly?

He presented himself. They maybe didn’t need to take a formal statement. Maybe it’s not been made public. It was the most significant early sighting. It was held up as solid evidence of an abduction. Given the level of cooperation described it’s inconceivable to think Dr Totman wasn’t discussed. They state that they cooperated and shared info into all credible sightings.

[Vertigo Swirl]

He presented himself. They maybe didn’t need to take a formal statement. Maybe it’s not been made public. It was the most significant early sighting. It was held up as solid evidence of an abduction. Given the level of cooperation described it’s inconceivable to think Dr Totman wasn’t discussed. They state that they cooperated and shared info into all credible sightings.

What is entirely inconceivable (yet apparently true) that a witness came forward as Tannerman and the PJ said or did nothing to rule out this potential sighting of an abductor.  Why on earth didn't they? 

[Wonderfulspam]

What is entirely inconceivable (yet apparently true) that a witness came forward as Tannerman and the PJ said or did nothing to rule out this potential sighting of an abductor.  Why on earth didn't they?

Because he said he was walking in entirely the opposite direction?

[Wonderfulspam]

The only logical explanation I can think of for how the MET could be 'almost certain' Totman was Tannerman, despite the direction anomaly, is that Jane Tanner has told the MET she was mistaken & that the man she saw was indeed walking the other way.

Can anyone think of any other explanations?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

What is entirely inconceivable (yet apparently true) that a witness came forward as Tannerman and the PJ said or did nothing to rule out this potential sighting of an abductor.  Why on earth didn't they?

They did. He came forward. It’s clear that Amaral never believed Tannerman was the abductor.

[jassi]

They did. He came forward. It’s clear that Amaral never believed Tannerman was the abductor.

I'm 'almost certain' that he was correct in that respect.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I'm 'almost certain' that he was correct in that respect.

Me too…. Though it seemed he didn’t believe her at all whereas Totman shows she saw someone. She just got the direction of travel a bit muddled…. And is it possible she missed Gerry and Gez because she turned left before walking past them to do the normal listening only check? (A question please note, and all hypothetical of course)