Wandering Off Topic

[Brietta]

A witness who was walking the streets of Luz round about the time Madeleine disappeared and who was never interviewed despite making an approach to the police, may very well have given details to Scotland Yard which are of relevance to the current investigation as a whole.

Tannerman is still very much a person who has not yet been traced.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

A witness who was walking the streets of Luz round about the time Madeleine disappeared and who was never interviewed despite making an approach to the police, may very well have given details to Scotland Yard which are of relevance to the current investigation as a whole.

Tannerman is still very much a person who has not yet been traced.

So you disagree with SY that it was Dr Totman?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Because he said he was walking in entirely the opposite direction?

Given that the man said he was there at the time of the alleged sighting you would have thought the PJ might have gone back to JT and asked her if it was possibile that she saw the man walking the other way, or in fact anything else to verify that it was Totman she saw, like showing her a picture of him for example?  Or was that beyond the wit of the PJ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

They did. He came forward. It’s clear that Amaral never believed Tannerman was the abductor.

Please can I have a cite for the PJ ruling out Tannerman on the basis that he had been identified as Totman. 

[Eleanor]

Given that the man said he was there at the time of the alleged sighting you would have thought the PJ might have gone back to JT and asked her if it was pssobile that she saw the man walking the other way, or in fact anything else to verify that it was Totman she saw, like showing her a picture of him for example?  Or was that beyond the wit of the PJ?

The PJ had no wit, although they might have found some after Amaral was sacked.  Not entirely sure about that.

How on earth a man who was already involved in a Perjury Case was ever allowed any where near this case will forever defeat me.  That is the beginning and the end.  And Amaral will forever be a disgrace to The PJ.

Good.  They jolly well deserve it.  They employed a philandering, debt ridden liar.

[Wonderfulspam]

Given that the man said he was there at the time of the alleged sighting you would have thought the PJ might have gone back to JT and asked her if it was possibile that she saw the man walking the other way, or in fact anything else to verify that it was Totman she saw, like showing her a picture of him for example?  Or was that beyond the wit of the PJ?

They did go back to Jane Tanner, & she implied that it looked like Robert Murat in the way he walked.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Please can I have a cite for the PJ ruling out Tannerman on the basis that he had been identified as Totman.

I never claimed that. I said Dr Totman presented himself to the PJ (or GNR I think) and said he was most likely Tannerman. It’s therefore reasonable to assume that strengthened their reported doubts that Tanner saw an abductor.

[Eleanor]

I never claimed that. I said Dr Totman presented himself to the PJ (or GNR I think) and said he was most likely Tannerman. It’s therefore reasonable to assume that strengthened their reported doubts that Tanner saw an abductor.

Which was it?  The PJ or The GNR?

So therefor not reasonable to assume anything.  Least of all the reported doubts of anyone.

Your apparent doubts are irrelevant.  And certainly not reasonable.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Which was it?  The PJ or The GNR?

So therefor not reasonable to assume anything.  Least of all the reported doubts of anyone.

Your apparent doubts are irrelevant.  And certainly not reasonable.

This link says GNR and “local police”. You’re free to believe this information wasn’t shared with the investigation and I’m free to assume that on the balance of probabilities that it was.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/07/madeleine-mccann-police-wasted-years-hunting-man-already-spoken-7527943/

[Eleanor]

This link says GNR and “local police”. You’re free to believe this information wasn’t shared with the investigation and I’m free to assume that on the balance of probabilities that it was.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/07/madeleine-mccann-police-wasted-years-hunting-man-already-spoken-7527943/

I see.  You are free to assume whatever you like.  But then aren't we all.

 Do keep on running.  You are becoming a laugh a minute with your assumptions.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I see.  You are free to assume whatever you like.  But then aren't we all.

 Do keep on running.  You are becoming a laugh a minute with your assumptions.

Do you believe the report that his wife said he presented himself to the Police in Portugal?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I never claimed that. I said Dr Totman presented himself to the PJ (or GNR I think) and said he was most likely Tannerman. It’s therefore reasonable to assume that strengthened their reported doubts that Tanner saw an abductor.

Why did they doubt Jane Tanner’s sighting in the first place?  Wasn’t it because they thought she’d made the whole thing up?  And them along comes Totman and says it was him and thr police say ok fine well we never thought it was an abductor anyway and didn’t even bother to write it up in their report?  Did they even bother to check out Totman to make sure he hadn’t actually abducted Madeleine?  Isn’t that what  a professional police force would do?  So is there any evidence that they follwed up on his coming forward?  There isn’t a single mention of anything related to it in the files which considering the prominence given to JT’s sighting is utterly baffling IMO. 

[Eleanor]

Do you believe the report that his wife said he presented himself to the Police in Portugal?

I don't know what you are even talking about.  But then I mostly don't.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

A witness who was walking the streets of Luz round about the time Madeleine disappeared and who was never interviewed despite making an approach to the police, may very well have given details to Scotland Yard which are of relevance to the current investigation as a whole.

Tannerman is still very much a person who has not yet been traced.

So you don’t believe that Jane Tanner saw Dr Totman?

[Eleanor]

Why did they doubt Jane Tanner’s sighting in the first place?  Wasn’t it because they thought she’d made the whole thing up?  And them along comes Totman and says it was him and thr police say ok fine well we never thought it was an abductor anyway and didn’t even bother to write it up in their report?  Did they even bother to check out Totman to make sure he hadn’t actually abducted Madeleine?  Isn’t that what  a professional police force would do?  So is there any evidence that they follwed up on his coming forward?  There isn’t a single mention of anything related to it in the files which considering the prominence given to JT’s sighting is utterly baffling IMO.

Yer well.  Me too.  Much good it will do for either of us.  But then I am past caring.  Whoever they were did nothing.  And I do not know why.

It is probably much too late now.