Wandering Off Topic

[Wonderfulspam]

I've no doubt there are a myriad of reasons why people don't report instances of domestic violence to the police, but none of them are reasonable imo.
If I'm a victim of crime, any crime, the first thing I do is report it to the police.
I was robbed at knife point a few years ago. I was on the phone to the law the moment they took my £20 change.
And if a guy raped me in a dark alley one night, I'd call the police, or murder him. One of the two.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I've no doubt there are a myriad of reasons why people don't report instances of domestic violence to the police, but none of them are reasonable imo.
If I'm a victim of crime, any crime, the first thing I do is report it to the police.
I was robbed at knife point a few years ago. I was on the phone to the law the moment they took my £20 change.
And if a guy raped me in a dark alley one night, I'd call the police, or murder him. One of the two.

Until it’s happened to you you really don’t know what you’d do or how you’d react imo.  Male rape is greatly underreported.

[G-Unit]

You’re making a strawman argument.  Who is blaming men for everything?  This conversation started when I drew attention to another two senseless murders of women by men - are we just supposed to accept them because it’s always happened and most men are decent and men are often victims too?  Should it not matter because women in Afghanistan have it worse? Did the mother and three children in Killamarsh deserved to be butchered because she might have been a bit too critical?  These are all irrelevant to the issue I raised of male on female violence. You may not think iit’s a problem but I do.

It sure sounded like you were blaming men for everything.

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"there are dozens more ways in which men have it better than women and still they hate and despise women and moan about how unfairly they are treated by women and society in general.  Men need to grow up and get a grip. "

[Wonderfulspam]

Until it’s happened to you you really don’t know what you’d do or how you’d react imo.  Male rape is greatly underreported.

I've reported every crime I've been a victim of in my life. Which isn't many thankfully.
I don't think I'm about to change that for anything because it's absolutely the right thing to do.

[Wonderfulspam]

It sure sounded like you were blaming men for everything.

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"there are dozens more ways in which men have it better than women and still they hate and despise women and moan about how unfairly they are treated by women and society in general.  Men need to grow up and get a grip. "

I think she meant me.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think she meant me.

Exactly!  At least you get me.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I've reported every crime I've been a victim of in my life. Which isn't many thankfully.
I don't think I'm about to change that for anything because it's absolutely the right thing to do.

Sexual crime should absolutely be reported but some men find it difficult to do so because they feel ashamed or weak.  And girls and women also can feel ashamed or as if they were somehow to blame for it.  Just because you think you would behave in a certain way doesn’t necessarily mean all people would follow suit.

[Wonderfulspam]

Exactly!  At least you get me.

Well I greatly enjoy the chalk & cheese time we have together.

You name something demonstrably terrible then I explain why it's not so terrible in my own opinion & we tend to completely disagree.
I wake up some mornings looking forward to what we can disagree about next.

[Wonderfulspam]

One of my 'friends' is in an abusive relationship.
She's the abuser, has spent the last few years constantly accusing her partner of cheating on her, assaulted him, broke his house windows, has been arrested twice & in the last incident was even tasered by the police. She's currently sweating on a possible charge for affray.
I keep her at a distance. She is not really welcome in my house & I only occasionally talk to her on the phone.
She's a total ass when she's had a drink.

[Wonderfulspam]

And even though she's assaulted him trashed his house, threw paint all over his front doorstep & makes his life hell, he keeps forgiving her & taking her back, until the next time & the next.
When she's been sober I've warned her about it but she takes no notice.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well I greatly enjoy the chalk & cheese time we have together.

You name something demonstrably terrible then I explain why it's not so terrible in my own opinion & we tend to completely disagree.
I wake up some mornings looking forward to what we can disagree about next.

Your “voice” is uncannily like a guy I used to work with.  We would have similarly polarized conversations in the Cricketers after work and wind each other up something rotten, but there was always an underlying sense of humour which meant it never ended in violence.

[Wonderfulspam]

I read a post on social media the other day questioning why people aren't more angry with the death of the murdered school teacher like they were about Sarah Everard.

It got me wondering...

How angry am I supposed to be exactly & why must I be angry about the murder of a woman I never met, didn't know & had absolutely no connection to?

Can anyone explain?

[jassi]

I read a post on social media the other day questioning why people aren't more angry with the death of the murdered school teacher like they were about Sarah Everard.

It got me wondering...

How angry am I supposed to be exactly & why must I be angry about the murder of a woman I never met, didn't know & had absolutely no connection to?

Can anyone explain?

No I can't, but who are we supposed to be angry with and how should this anger be expressed ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I read a post on social media the other day questioning why people aren't more angry with the death of the murdered school teacher like they were about Sarah Everard.

It got me wondering...

How angry am I supposed to be exactly & why must I be angry about the murder of a woman I never met, didn't know & had absolutely no connection to?

Can anyone explain?

I guess what they mean is - why hasn't her death been co-opted by those with a political agenda, to use her death for demonstrations and civil disorder.  I believe there is a vigil for her tonight so give it time.   That said I think women have good cause to be angry and saddened by the fact that it is still not possible to walk through a well-used city park at 8pm on the way to meet a friend without the risk of being attacked hanging over their heads.  Why should we have to carry rape alarms?  Why shouldn't men have to wear a device that renders them impotent when out and about? If all women are potential rape victims then all men are potential rapists.  IMO. 

[jassi]

I feel despair, rather than anger that society has degenerated to this level.
There are some nasty f**kers out there just waiting to inflict violence, not just on women at night, but also in broad daylight, judging by the number of shootings and stabbing reported in the media.

Fortunately it's only a relatively small number of incidents, though that is small comfort to the victims & their families and seems to be restricted mainly to some cities and large towns.