Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

They seem a little coy about what the abuse amounted to.

What do you want - diagrams?

[jassi]

If he has proof of death shouldn’t he be telling Madeleine’s parents what it is and shouldn’t they, in turn, be removing their donate button from the official website?

Asking for a friend.

Perhaps he has, but they don't accept it.
There is money involved here, though probably not much these days.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It amazes me the close tabs some sceptics keep on the Find Madeleine website, it’s quite obsessive imo.  It’s  not a website that I would ever bother to look at or worry about yet some here seem very concerned about it on an going basis.  They and their concerned “friends” should chill the fk out IMO.

[faithlilly]

How about this one >

Judge frees suspect of abusing child at carousel prohibiting him from attending amusement parks

Pedro Sales Dias
28 de Julho de 2014, 15:09

Suspect of child attack is accused of abusing another girl four years ago.

He cannot attend amusement parks. This was the decision of a judge to let a man go free - registered by previous abuses - arrested Saturday when abused of an eight year old girl on a carousel in Gaia.

Presented for the first interrogation, this Monday at the Criminal Court, the magistrate also banned him from contacting the child and forced him to submit periodically to the police until he is judged.

Indicted for the crime of sexual abuse of children, the man risked a penalty of up to a maximum of ten years imprisonment as provided in the Penal Code.

The carousel was a mere decoy for allegedly abusing an eight-year curious to know how it worked the fun equipment. The man of 27 years, so captivated the interest of a child in the Feasts of Saint Cristovao in Gaia on the Saturday afternoon, when he abused the girl inside the carousel.

The girl had gone to those parties, in the square of the church of Mafamude, accompanied by grandparents, but at the time she was alone.

Nobody saw anything, assured the source pf PJ to Publico newspaper.

At that time, no employee was in the cabin as the carousel was not in operation.

It was the child who later told grandparents what had happened when returned in tears.

Relatives warned PSP and PJ was immediately called. The suspect, who is unemployed was arrested by 17h after being located in the vicinity of the enclosure parties.

Source of PJ stressed that man already has a record for the same crime.

Four years ago was also arrested for allegedly assaulting another eight year old girl in Gaia, where he lives. It was then accused by prosecutors and the process is still running in court.

News updated at 19h14 with coercive measures ordered by the court to the defendant .

https://www.publico.pt/2014/07/28/sociedade/noticia/pj-detem-suspeito-de-abuso-sexual-de-menina-na-cabina-de-um-carrossel-em-gaia-1664552

Or this?

https://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/20005171.swindon-man-walks-free-despite-12-000-child-abuse-images/

[jassi]

I think the courts have to be pragmatic about this, else the prison population would mushroom.
Like it or not some abuse is viewed as  more serious than others.

[Eleanor]

I think the courts have to be pragmatic about this, else the prison population would mushroom.
Like it or not some abuse is viewed as  more serious than others.

And lets not get too worried about abused children.

Jesus Christ.  God preserve me.

[jassi]

And lets not get too worried about abused children.

Jesus Christ.  God preserve me.

Like it or not , the courts decide.

[Eleanor]

Like it or not , the courts decide.

And you think that small and abused children should be left to the letter of The Law?

There are about six of these children who's parents are up for Murder at the moment.

What a pity that no one noticed before these children died.

[faithlilly]

And you think that small and abused children should be left to the letter of The Law?

There are about six of these children who's parents are up for Murder at the moment.

What a pity that no one noticed before these children died.

I think we can all agree on that.

[jassi]

And you think that small and abused children should be left to the letter of The Law?

There are about six of these children who's parents are up for Murder at the moment.

What a pity that no one noticed before these children died.

At the end of the day that's all there is. Courts deal with crimes that have happened, not those that might happen.
While adequate support services are not properly funded, these things will happen.

[Mr Gray]

If he has proof of death shouldn’t he be telling Madeleine’s parents what it is and shouldn’t they, in turn, be removing their donate button from the official website?

Asking for a friend.

He's explained why he's not releasing any info to SY.. The PJ or the parents. Im sure once they have proof the donate button will be removed and all monies distributed to charities

[jassi]

He's explained why he's not releasing any info to SY.. The PJ or the parents. Im sure once they have proof the donate button will be removed and all monies distributed to charities

I've forgotten that. Could you remind me?

[Eleanor]

At the end of the day that's all there is. Courts deal with crimes that have happened, not those that might happen.
While adequate support services are not properly funded, these things will happen.

Golly Gosh.  When do you think The McCanns beat their daughter to death?

[faithlilly]

He's explained why he's not releasing any info to SY.. The PJ or the parents. Im sure once they have proof the donate button will be removed and all monies distributed to charities

Are you saying that the parents don’t believe Wolter when he says that Madeleine is dead?

[Eleanor]

Are you saying that the parents don’t believe Wolter when he says that Madeleine is dead?

Who knows?  What do you think?