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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12135 on: April 13, 2022, 09:40:24 AM »
I'm surprised my children survived at all, after what they got up to.  Most of which I didn't know about until much later.
By rights I should have been murdered or died in an accident too when I was a kid, my parents were even more “abusive” and “neglectful” than I was, and all in a foreign country filled with all manner of extra danger..
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #12136 on: April 13, 2022, 10:03:17 AM »
The McCanns will have been professionally counselled in order to deal with the trauma of their ordeal. They will have been told not to blame themselves.. But we know that they do

1st January 2008;

‘At the time we did it, it was not irresponsible!” Gerry snaps.
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id63.htm

I wonder what he meant? That in his opinion they behaved responsibly in May 2007, but he now realises they were wrong?

Aptil 2008;

The father of three said he and his wife Kate had thought at the time it was "perfectly reasonable" to leave Madeleine, then three, and their two-year-old twins alone in an unlocked holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz...

He added: "Hindsight has proven we made a mistake and we would never leave the children again."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-561818/Madeleine-We-mistake-leave-children-says-Gerry-McCann.html

So if Madeleine hadn't disappeared they would have continued to think their childcare choices were perfectly reasonable imo.

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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #12137 on: April 13, 2022, 10:06:01 AM »
By rights I should have been murdered or died in an accident too when I was a kid, my parents were even more “abusive” and “neglectful” than I was, and all in a foreign country filled with all manner of extra danger..


My Julian at the age of three and bit would climb the seven foot garden fence and run off down to The Kampong when I or The Amah weren't watching him.  But then my Amah lived in this conglomeration of mud and wooden huts, so I could be pretty sure that her mother was watching out for him.

I once allowed my Amah to take the baby with her for the three days of Chinese New Year, probably because I couldn't face looking after the squalling brat myself.

His feet never touched the ground.  She and her four sisters saw to that.

Taking him away from her is the most painful thing I have ever done.

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12138 on: April 13, 2022, 10:06:42 AM »
There is a Sin of Omission.

There is also a Sin of Commission.

I have never understood why in this case the sin committed inadvertently has been adopted as the benchmark for all blame.

While the sin carried out with deliberate malice for the innocent is forgotten and does not merit any opprobrium or blame at all.
What part of leaving your 3 nursery age kids to fend for themselves in an unlocked apartment, to continually go out boozing night after night inadvertent?
It's abuse and it's a model example of why child neglect laws are required, because it appears some are utterly oblivious.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #12139 on: April 13, 2022, 10:08:53 AM »
1st January 2008;

‘At the time we did it, it was not irresponsible!” Gerry snaps.
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id63.htm

I wonder what he meant? That in his opinion they behaved responsibly in May 2007, but he now realises they were wrong?

Aptil 2008;

The father of three said he and his wife Kate had thought at the time it was "perfectly reasonable" to leave Madeleine, then three, and their two-year-old twins alone in an unlocked holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz...

He added: "Hindsight has proven we made a mistake and we would never leave the children again."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-561818/Madeleine-We-mistake-leave-children-says-Gerry-McCann.html

So if Madeleine hadn't disappeared they would have continued to think their childcare choices were perfectly reasonable imo.

Such a pity that No One knew that a predator was breaking into appartments and assaulting children, even when their parents were at home.

Offline The General

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« Reply #12140 on: April 13, 2022, 10:10:34 AM »
The McCanns will have been professionally counselled in order to deal with the trauma of their ordeal. They will have been told not to blame themselves.. But we know that they do
That would have been a waste of resources then; they should have been counseled that they were to blame.
'We've let her down' my arse, they are responsible and that should haunt them every minute.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2022, 10:18:34 AM by The General »
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Offline jassi

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« Reply #12141 on: April 13, 2022, 10:12:02 AM »
Such a pity that No One knew that a predator was breaking into appartments and assaulting children, even when their parents were at home.

Has any link been shown between these events and the disappearance of Madeleine ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline The General

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« Reply #12142 on: April 13, 2022, 10:15:41 AM »
Such a pity that No One knew that a predator was breaking into appartments and assaulting children, even when their parents were at home.
Nothing was going to get in the way of those boozy, 8 hour dinners, not even the desperate pleas of their own daughter when one of the poor little mites was sobbing for their mummy and daddy.
Abuse and neglect is one thing, having it pointed out to you by your own 3 year old and repeating it is unconscionable and takes a cold heart.
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Offline The General

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« Reply #12143 on: April 13, 2022, 10:18:02 AM »
Has any link been shown between these events and the disappearance of Madeleine ?
It wouldn't have made a difference. They were going out; OUT OUT and those kids were just going to have to deal with it.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #12144 on: April 13, 2022, 10:18:44 AM »
What part of leaving your 3 nursery age kids to fend for themselves in an unlocked apartment, to continually go out boozing night after night inadvertent?
It's abuse and it's a model example of why child neglect laws are required, because it appears some are utterly oblivious.

Is there any Law against this?  The answer is No, of course.  Only the circumstances are taken into consideration.

And even The Portuguese Whoever said that there was No Intent to Abandon or Neglect.  Suck it up.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #12145 on: April 13, 2022, 10:20:06 AM »
That would have been a waste of resources then; they should have been counseled that they were to blame.
'We've let her down' my arse, they are responsible and that should haunt them every minute.

And I am sure that it does haunt them.

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12146 on: April 13, 2022, 10:20:34 AM »
Is there any Law against this?  The answer is No, of course.  Only the circumstances are taken into consideration.

And even The Portuguese Whoever said that there was No Intent to Abandon or Neglect.  Suck it up.
Which is what they probably said to Maddie on their way out the door.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #12147 on: April 13, 2022, 10:24:32 AM »
Has any link been shown between these events and the disappearance of Madeleine ?

Does there need to be?  Small girls being sexually assaulted was small beer to The PJ.  Why bother to investigate or even warn anyone?

But somedebody was doing this.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #12148 on: April 13, 2022, 10:26:06 AM »
Nothing was going to get in the way of those boozy, 8 hour dinners, not even the desperate pleas of their own daughter when one of the poor little mites was sobbing for their mummy and daddy.
Abuse and neglect is one thing, having it pointed out to you by your own 3 year old and repeating it is unconscionable and takes a cold heart.

More lies.

Offline jassi

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« Reply #12149 on: April 13, 2022, 10:27:49 AM »
Does there need to be?  Small girls being sexually assaulted was small beer to The PJ.  Why bother to investigate or even warn anyone?

But somedebody was doing this.

Well PDL was Paedophile Heaven. Were they small girls or is that your interpretation of events ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future