Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

I wonder if these children whose mothers are going to be legally forced to carry and give birth to them will have good lives?

Some will be neglected, some will be abused, some will grow up never knowing their own parents, but as long as God is happy (and all the American morons who are using their faith as a justification for this backward step) then I’m sure they’ll be just fine.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Would you have ever aborted a child?

I would have had I discovered that my baby had a life limiting condition or disability, but probably not simply because it was an inconvenient.time to have a baby.  But that said, I respect a woman’s right to have a termination whatever her reasons.

[Eleanor]

I would have had I discovered that my baby had a life limiting condition or disability, but probably not simply because it was an inconvenient.time to have a baby.  But that said, I respect a woman’s right to have a termination whatever her reasons.

I doubt that I could even have done that.  But the right to do so has to remain with the woman.

[Wonderfulspam]

I wonder if these children whose mothers are going to be legally forced to carry and give birth to them will have good lives?

Not all of the states are banning it, some will likely impose their own term limits, & women who do live in states where it's controlled can always travel to a Democrat run state, where they'll probably be allowed to terminate well into the twelfth trimester, or they could just try practicing safer sex in the first place.

[Wonderfulspam]

I would have had I discovered that my baby had a life limiting condition or disability, but probably not simply because it was an inconvenient.time to have a baby.  But that said, I respect a woman’s right to have a termination whatever her reasons.

Up to what term in pregnancy though?

Let's say, she's laying on the table dilated, still ok?

[G-Unit]

Would you have ever aborted a child?

I wouldn't rule it out. I think it's a personal decision for a woman, not one to be made by others.

[Eleanor]

I wouldn't rule it out. I think it's a personal decision for a woman, not one to be made by others.

Good.  And so it is.

[Wonderfulspam]

I wouldn't rule it out. I think it's a personal decision for a woman, not one to be made by others.

Good.  And so it is.

.....and the father should have a right to a paper abortion if he chooses, right?

That would be fair, wouldn't it?

[Eleanor]

I have no conception of any man who thinks he might have a right to decide.  In exchange for a quick poke.

[Wonderfulspam]

I have no conception of any man who thinks he might have a right to decide.  In exchange for a quick poke.

He doesn't decide on termination per se, he can't make a woman terminate, a paper abortion means if the woman chooses to carry the child against the fathers wishes, he has a right to opt out of any contact or financial support for the child.

[Wonderfulspam]

Surely the father gets a say in that.

Lets say, a one night stand from 10 years ago turns up on his doorstep.

He had absolutely no contact or connection to the woman in the 10 year interim.

She essentially chose to carry & give birth, knowing the father wouldn't be involved.

Is it right that she can later demand child support, when he never consented to the birth of the child? 

Or, is poking it in to be presumed as consent to child birth, & if so, surely a woman couldn't terminate against the fathers wishes either, in fairness.

[G-Unit]

Surely the father gets a say in that.

Lets say, a one night stand from 10 years ago turns up on his doorstep.

He had absolutely no contact or connection to the woman in the 10 year interim.

She essentially chose to carry & give birth, knowing the father wouldn't be involved.

Is it right that she can later demand child support, when he never consented to the birth of the child? 

Or, is poking it in to be presumed as consent to child birth, & if so, surely a woman couldn't terminate against the fathers wishes either, in fairness.

Changing the abortion laws make it more likely that men will have to contribute to the upbringing of a child they didn't want. Now the child has two parents who resent having to care for it.

[Eleanor]

Changing the abortion laws make it more likely that men will have to contribute to the upbringing of a child they didn't want. Now the child has two parents who resent having to care for it.

What a very twisted attitude to some poor child who never had a choice.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It won’t be long before America makes homosexuality illegal and women have to wear head coverings and are denied the vote.

[Wonderfulspam]

It won’t be long before America makes homosexuality illegal and women have to wear head coverings and are denied the vote.

You don't like the middle east then?