Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

Im in no way belittled ...at school I excelled in maths and science which was pretty impressive for a youg chap from a council estate....my language skills were quite average

When higher education was made available to all, many people from lower income families were able to demonstrate that brains were not the sole property of the better-off.

[G-Unit]

Your opinion of my post references only the limitation of your vision or rather the lack of.

It is utterly bizarre that you continually attach so much kudos to long redundant and largely invented issues of importance only to you and others holding the same long devalued beliefs.

Comparing giving police interviews to playing Chinese Whispers is a visionary leap too far for me, I will admit. In fact I would go so far as to describe it as fanciful.

One point you might want to ponder about my 'beliefs'. Anyone can find and read the evidence I present. As yet I've seen the belief expressed that the PJ statements are unreliable, but I've seen no evidence at all presented to support that opinion.

[Mr Gray]

When higher education was made available to all, many people from lower income families were able to demonstrate that brains were not the sole property of the better-off.

There's no equality in education...you might think there is...better off children get a much better education

I should add...it's quite unfair

[Vertigo Swirl]

Comparing giving police interviews to playing Chinese Whispers is a visionary leap too far for me, I will admit. In fact I would go so far as to describe it as fanciful.

One point you might want to ponder about my 'beliefs'. Anyone can find and read the evidence I present. As yet I've seen the belief expressed that the PJ statements are unreliable, but I've seen no evidence at all presented to support that opinion.

you might like to take a look at this thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?PHPSESSID=7rp7ifisbrkuaoht2n38dfmp07&topic=6432.0

[Mr Gray]

Comparing giving police interviews to playing Chinese Whispers is a visionary leap too far for me, I will admit. In fact I would go so far as to describe it as fanciful.

One point you might want to ponder about my 'beliefs'. Anyone can find and read the evidence I present. As yet I've seen the belief expressed that the PJ statements are unreliable, but I've seen no evidence at all presented to support that opinion.

There is evidence ....and you've seen it

[Mr Gray]

Comparing giving police interviews to playing Chinese Whispers is a visionary leap too far for me, I will admit. In fact I would go so far as to describe it as fanciful.

One point you might want to ponder about my 'beliefs'. Anyone can find and read the evidence I present. As yet I've seen the belief expressed that the PJ statements are unreliable, but I've seen no evidence at all presented to support that opinion.

Why do you think that in the UK the statement is taken snd signed by the witness in their own language....and then translated into english

[Brietta]

you might like to take a look at this thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?PHPSESSID=7rp7ifisbrkuaoht2n38dfmp07&topic=6432.0

Reading back through that is a timely reminder of the repository of knowledge this forum actually contains; shame some of it didn't permeate through the fog for some who although not putting up much of an argument at the time have continued to believe and promulgate the obvious errors which were irrefutably debunked.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Reading back through that is a timely reminder of the repository of knowledge this forum actually contains; shame some of it didn't permeate through the fog for some who although not putting up much of an argument at the time have continued to believe and promulgate the obvious errors which were irrefutably debunked.

there are at least two or three other threads on the same subject, but it seems we are destined to go round and round in circles forever.

[G-Unit]

you might like to take a look at this thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?PHPSESSID=7rp7ifisbrkuaoht2n38dfmp07&topic=6432.0

I'm not really interested in discussing the unofficial amateur translations into English of the PJ files. They aren't anything to do with the official statement taking and never affected the official process.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm not really interested in discussing the unofficial amateur translations into English of the PJ files. They aren't anything to do with the official statement taking and never affected the official process.

Can you read and understand Portuguese and were you there when the McCanns etc gave their statements?  Have you had sight of the official, professional translations into English?  Because if not, then you’re not qualified to comment on whether or not there are errors of translation.  The ONLY people who can do that are those who gave the statements in the first place, and they say that their written PT statements had errors in them.  What sort of evidence would you expect to see other than that which they had pointed out? 

[G-Unit]

Can you read and understand Portuguese and were you there when the McCanns etc gave their statements?  Have you had sight of the official, professional translations into English?  Because if not, then you’re not qualified to comment on whether or not there are errors of translation.  The ONLY people who can do that are those who gave the statements in the first place, and they say that their written PT statements had errors in them.  What sort of evidence would you expect to see other than that which they had pointed out?

People? Errors? I know of only one person and no evidence. It's possible that she had forgotten, by September, what she had said in May.

Kate McCann has commented on one example which, she claims, was translated into Portuguese in a way which gave it a different meaning. She doesn't explain what it was about or how it's meaning was changed.

[Vertigo Swirl]

People? Errors? I know of only one person and no evidence. It's possible that she had forgotten, by September, what she had said in May.

Kate McCann has commented on one example which, she claims, was translated into Portuguese in a way which gave it a different meaning. She doesn't explain what it was about or how it's meaning was changed.

Do you accept that you are in absolutely no position to judge whether or not there were errors and that Kate McCann is?  And that if she says there were errors then her opinion is way more valid than yours?  If you don't accept this then please explain why Kate's opinion that there WERE translation errors is not evidence that they existed and why you are better placed to comment on the veracity of the statements in the files.  Furthermore what evidence would you expect to see that the statements in the files had been wrongly translated, given that you can't read Portuguese and weren't there when the statements were given?

[Mr Gray]

People? Errors? I know of only one person and no evidence. It's possible that she had forgotten, by September, what she had said in May.

Kate McCann has commented on one example which, she claims, was translated into Portuguese in a way which gave it a different meaning. She doesn't explain what it was about or how it's meaning was changed.

Kate said there were so many errors they made new ststements with CRG which were sent to the. PJ

[Eleanor]

There's no equality in education...you might think there is...better off children get a much better education

I should add...it's quite unfair

Or you can beggar yourself forever to send them to a Public School.  I do not regret a penny of it.

[Eleanor]

It is not possible to totally accurately translate any language.