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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14505 on: November 05, 2022, 09:48:57 PM »
Tis difficult to forget some of the horror stories that came out of Portugal at the time.

Whether or not I or Brietta have moved on in your opinion is irrelevant.  Ground Hog Day is a fact of life in this Case.

The mistakes made in the past are emphasised by the evidence led investigation of the here and now. There are those who wish to dwell in the past and have nobody to blame but themselves for their inability to move on from there.

We kept on hoping for Madeleine and moved on over the years buoyed by that.  So we have kept pace with current events as they unfolded even if they may not be unravelling as we had once hoped they would.

But I prefer to continue with hope until it is irrefutably whipped away from me.  But at least my hope is for the good and never would I deliberately behave with the vileness of heart required to wish ill on people already suffering more than flesh and blood could reasonably be expected to bear.

Had I that much malice in my being - I would never utter a word of it - I would be too black burning ashamed.  And I fail to understand how the active sceptics can fail to see how shameful their actions are.  I think that probably epitomises the differences.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #14506 on: November 05, 2022, 09:55:36 PM »
The mistakes made in the past are emphasised by the evidence led investigation of the here and now. There are those who wish to dwell in the past and have nobody to blame but themselves for their inability to move on from there.

We kept on hoping for Madeleine and moved on over the years buoyed by that.  So we have kept pace with current events as they unfolded even if they may not be unravelling as we had once hoped they would.

But I prefer to continue with hope until it is irrefutably whipped away from me.  But at least my hope is for the good and never would I deliberately behave with the vileness of heart required to wish ill on people already suffering more than flesh and blood could reasonably be expected to bear.

Had I that much malice in my being - I would never utter a word of it - I would be too black burning ashamed.  And I fail to understand how the active sceptics can fail to see how shameful their actions are.  I think that probably epitomises the differences.

The problem here is that they have no shame.  I find this very sad.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #14507 on: November 05, 2022, 10:28:36 PM »
The mistakes made in the past are emphasised by the evidence led investigation of the here and now. There are those who wish to dwell in the past and have nobody to blame but themselves for their inability to move on from there.

We kept on hoping for Madeleine and moved on over the years buoyed by that.  So we have kept pace with current events as they unfolded even if they may not be unravelling as we had once hoped they would.

But I prefer to continue with hope until it is irrefutably whipped away from me.  But at least my hope is for the good and never would I deliberately behave with the vileness of heart required to wish ill on people already suffering more than flesh and blood could reasonably be expected to bear.

Had I that much malice in my being - I would never utter a word of it - I would be too black burning ashamed.  And I fail to understand how the active sceptics can fail to see how shameful their actions are.  I think that probably epitomises the differences.

Where is your hope when pushing the Brueckner narrative?

It could be argued that it would be less reprehensible to believe that Madeleine had met a much kinder death in an accident than the truly awful fate that some maintain she suffered at the hand’s of such a abhorrent individual as Bruckner.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #14508 on: November 05, 2022, 10:29:50 PM »
In Your Opinion.

No as evidenced by her own posts.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #14509 on: November 05, 2022, 10:35:20 PM »
No as evidenced by her own posts.

It is still only your opinion.

I have no desire to be rude to you so I won't be replying again in this instance.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #14510 on: November 05, 2022, 10:47:42 PM »
It is still only your opinion.

I have no desire to be rude to you so I won't be replying again in this instance.

No problem. It’s okay to agree to disagree.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14511 on: November 05, 2022, 11:27:06 PM »
Brietta has demonstrably not moved on but I absolutely agree with your Groundhog Day analogy.
The people who have “not moved on” are the ones who steadfastly cling on to the notion of the parents’ involvement like it’s still 2007, do you know who I mean?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14512 on: November 05, 2022, 11:29:09 PM »
Where is your hope when pushing the Brueckner narrative?

It could be argued that it would be less reprehensible to believe that Madeleine had met a much kinder death in an accident than the truly awful fate that some maintain she suffered at the hand’s of such a abhorrent individual as Bruckner.
Completely illogical nonsense again from you.  Will you never stop pushing this spurious and idiotic notion that it is somehow morally corrupt to think that Madeleine was abducted by someone such as Brückner, or that you have the moral high ground for believing the parents covered up an accidental death?  Get a grip woman.  You’re talking utter crap.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14513 on: November 05, 2022, 11:31:58 PM »
It is still only your opinion.

I have no desire to be rude to you so I won't be replying again in this instance.
No worries, I did it for you.  8(0(*
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #14514 on: November 05, 2022, 11:38:34 PM »
No worries, I did it for you.  8(0(*

I don't know what to say.  I'm lost for words.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #14515 on: November 06, 2022, 12:17:31 AM »
Completely illogical nonsense again from you.  Will you never stop pushing this spurious and idiotic notion that it is somehow morally corrupt to think that Madeleine was abducted by someone such as Brückner, or that you have the moral high ground for believing the parents covered up an accidental death?  Get a grip woman.  You’re talking utter crap.

Whatever happened in 2007 is done and cannot be undone.  But if there is evidence revealing what did happen, it is morally indefensible not to interrogate it and if possible bring it to a conclusion.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #14516 on: November 06, 2022, 12:48:46 AM »
Whatever happened in 2007 is done and cannot be undone.  But if there is evidence revealing what did happen, it is morally indefensible not to interrogate it and if possible bring it to a conclusion.

This has to be done.  The last thing I want is for Madeleine to be dead.  But if she is then she is.  I have to leave it to The BKA, at least for now.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14517 on: November 06, 2022, 07:16:16 AM »
Whatever happened in 2007 is done and cannot be undone.  But if there is evidence revealing what did happen, it is morally indefensible not to interrogate it and if possible bring it to a conclusion.
Exactly right.  This repeated claim by some on here that those who think CB might be involved in Madeleine’s disappearance are morally deficient is utterly illogical and quite despicable imo.  Clearly it is deflection and says far more about the accusers than the accused imo.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #14518 on: November 06, 2022, 08:36:12 AM »
The evidence gathered by the PJ didn't include anything suggesting that the crime against Madeleine was stranger abduction and nothing else. Nevertheless OG have spent years investigating just that.

So did they find evidence the PJ had missed? No, because the decision to concentrate on investigating stranger abduction was taken before OG had examined the evidence it had amassed.

Groundhog day has indeed occurred; the Portuguese  police have been denigrated, the Met's praises have been sung and those who have presented the facts have been accused of being nasty. All predictable and very boring, and none of that is relevant or changes the facts.


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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #14519 on: November 06, 2022, 08:53:36 AM »
The evidence gathered by the PJ didn't include anything suggesting that the crime against Madeleine was stranger abduction and nothing else. Nevertheless OG have spent years investigating just that.

So did they find evidence the PJ had missed? No, because the decision to concentrate on investigating stranger abduction was taken before OG had examined the evidence it had amassed.

Groundhog day has indeed occurred; the Portuguese  police have been denigrated, the Met's praises have been sung and those who have presented the facts have been accused of being nasty. All predictable and very boring, and none of that is relevant or changes the facts.

What Facts?  There are none to support your beliefs so it is pointless trying to deflect, again.