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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14730 on: December 02, 2022, 08:35:02 AM »
The mantra I'm referring to is accusing others of being insensitive and cruel to the 'poor McCanns'. Discussing the facts of the case means discussing all the facts, not just those their supporters approve of.
What do you call it when hundreds of people day in day out for many years point the finger at an innocent parent or parents online accusing them of deceit, cover up and complicity in their own child’s disappearance?  Give us three positive words to describe it.  Kind?  Understanding?  Empathetic? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14731 on: December 02, 2022, 08:38:59 AM »
The mantra I'm referring to is accusing others of being insensitive and cruel to the 'poor McCanns'. Discussing the facts of the case means discussing all the facts, not just those their supporters approve of.

Facts being the operative word.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14732 on: December 02, 2022, 08:47:09 AM »
Your post won't have been wiped intentionally, Sadie.  It usually occurs if you refresh the page or you go to a different page then return to your message and find it has disappeared completely.  It's happened to me, and no doubt others, many times in the past and is very frustrating, especially if your post is long and you haven't saved it just in case.  A quirk in the site software, I'm afraid.

It happens to me and then I spit because I forgot to copy it.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14733 on: December 02, 2022, 09:34:19 AM »
Facts being the operative word.
"Facts" can be twisted to suit agendas, I don't think G-Unit quite understands that.   It's not simply discussing facts, it's selecting facts to suit, to present a suspicion or an accusation.  Of course it happens on both sides but for her to pretend that what she is doing is somehow noble or a search for truth is a complete nonsense.   IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14734 on: December 02, 2022, 09:45:26 AM »
The mantra I'm referring to is accusing others of being insensitive and cruel to the 'poor McCanns'. Discussing the facts of the case means discussing all the facts, not just those their supporters approve of.

The fact of the "case" against the McCanns is that there isn't one.  There never was one.  Going on all we know - there never will be one except on the fringes of the internet conspiracy theories as promulgated by sceptics who know little about anything.  But reliant on distortions have already hung drawn quartered and hounded Madeleine's parents and all associated with them, based on lies.

The most distasteful and unforgivable aspect of this are the organised campaigns set up specifically to interfere with the concept of actually investigating Madeleine's case with the objective of solving it without fear or favour.

Meanwhile back in the real world.

BKA - SY - and PJ ~ the three investigative authorities tasked with solving Madeleine's case ~ have reiterated the fact that they have no interest in Madeleine's parents (meaning they have been checked and ruled out).

Christian Brueckner is the prime suspect of all three in Madeleine's disappearance.  This revelation is fact based and supported by evidence gathered and built upon over a period of years during which all or any others have been investigated leaving Brueckner as the last man standing as far as the evidence against him dictates.

Speaking for myself, I am content that the facts are that evidence and police procedure are the decisive factor as well as the monumental fight to bring these about.  My "approval" never entered into the equation.

Perhaps you might ponder on your naked prejudices which have always been inimical to anyone even contemplating doing anything to benefit Madeleine McCann and to find out what happened to her.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2022, 09:57:28 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14735 on: December 02, 2022, 09:54:27 AM »
What do you call it when hundreds of people day in day out for many years point the finger at an innocent parent or parents online accusing them of deceit, cover up and complicity in their own child’s disappearance?  Give us three positive words to describe it.  Kind?  Understanding?  Empathetic?

There have been veritable industries set up for the sole purpose of deriding the parents.  Probably an illustration of how reputations and people are broken by internet users.

The McCanns have obviously been very tough nuts to crack.  Which makes one wonder about anyone intent on causing them more harm than in 2007 with the intention of breaking them.

It is beyond belief.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14736 on: December 02, 2022, 10:04:08 AM »
"Facts" can be twisted to suit agendas, I don't think G-Unit quite understands that.   It's not simply discussing facts, it's selecting facts to suit, to present a suspicion or an accusation.  Of course it happens on both sides but for her to pretend that what she is doing is somehow noble or a search for truth is a complete nonsense.   IMO.

I think that what Gunit attempts to do is understood by her only too well.  But she isn't very good at it because Truth is alien to her.
Pick your target and go in for the kill.  Truth is irrelevant.  Fortunately her tactics aren't working because truth is all that matters.

Some fifteen years on No Police Force are even remotely considering The McCanns as culpable.  And in so far as this Forum matters, I am in for the long haul.  Ha!  It's been long already, but there are a few more years in me yet.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14737 on: December 02, 2022, 10:15:09 AM »
The fact of the "case" against the McCanns is that there isn't one.  There never was one.  Going on all we know - there never will be one except on the fringes of the internet conspiracy theories as promulgated by sceptics who know little about anything.  But reliant on distortions have already hung drawn quartered and hounded Madeleine's parents and all associated with them, based on lies.

The most distasteful and unforgivable aspect of this are the organised campaigns set up specifically to interfere with the concept of actually investigating Madeleine's case with the objective of solving it without fear or favour.

Meanwhile back in the real world.

BKA - SY - and PJ ~ the three investigative authorities tasked with solving Madeleine's case ~ have reiterated the fact that they have no interest in Madeleine's parents (meaning they have been checked and ruled out).

Christian Brueckner is the prime suspect of all three in Madeleine's disappearance.  This revelation is fact based and supported by evidence gathered and built upon over a period of years during which all or any others have been investigated leaving Brueckner as the last man standing as far as the evidence against him dictates.

Speaking for myself, I am content that the facts are that evidence and police procedure are the decisive factor as well as the monumental fight to bring these about.  My "approval" never entered into the equation.

Perhaps you might ponder on your naked prejudices which have always been inimical to anyone even contemplating doing anything to benefit Madeleine McCann and to find out what happened to her.

Sadly, Sceptics don't understand that Supporters don't have to approve of The McCanns.  It's not part of the equation. While their hatred of two people that they don't even know is all that matters to them.

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14738 on: December 02, 2022, 10:28:50 AM »
Sadly, Sceptics don't understand that Supporters don't have to approve of The McCanns.  It's not part of the equation. While their hatred of two people that they don't even know is all that matters to them.

Why do you lump all sceptics under that banner, I care not for the McCanns, as far as I'm concerned they've lost a child in as yet unclarified  circumstances.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #14739 on: December 02, 2022, 10:34:57 AM »
Sadly, Sceptics don't understand that Supporters don't have to approve of The McCanns.  It's not part of the equation. While their hatred of two people that they don't even know is all that matters to them.

Most supporters do approve of the McCanns though. The clue is in the adjectives used; innocent, anguished etc.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #14740 on: December 02, 2022, 10:38:45 AM »
Most supporters do approve of the McCanns though. The clue is in the adjectives used; innocent, anguished etc.

We care because The McCanns are being constantly and unfairly attacked?  Oh My.  Slap my hand.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14741 on: December 02, 2022, 10:42:21 AM »
Most supporters do approve of the McCanns though. The clue is in the adjectives used; innocent, anguished etc.

This Comment is a perfect example of a misuse of words.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14742 on: December 02, 2022, 11:00:36 AM »
We care because The McCanns are being constantly and unfairly attacked?  Oh My.  Slap my hand.

Why these parents though? There is thousands of people being maligned all over social media….cancer sufferers, people with a disability, parents of other missing children, victims of crime…all people deserving of your sympathy and support…why do you defend these particular parents day in day out?

For me it’s not a coincidence that supporters here are all of a certain age and almost exclusively women.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14743 on: December 02, 2022, 11:25:21 AM »
Why these parents though? There is thousands of people being maligned all over social media….cancer sufferers, people with a disability, parents of other missing children, victims of crime…all people deserving of your sympathy and support…why do you defend these particular parents day in day out?

For me it’s not a coincidence that supporters here are all of a certain age and almost exclusively women.

It was not long after I got my first computer.  I was no longer living in England.  I had spent some nice holidays in Portugal from whence this child disappeared.  I was a bit lonely at the time.  Will that do?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #14744 on: December 02, 2022, 11:26:06 AM »
We care because The McCanns are being constantly and unfairly attacked?  Oh My.  Slap my hand.

I'm sorry, but who decides whether it's fair or unfair to attack the McCanns. I happen to think it's perfectly fair thankyou & I see no good reason why it wouldn't be.
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